India ATG Team- Open Voting - Page 5

SJS · 07-01-2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morgieb

Farokh Engineer, I think he was a better all-rounder than Kirmani.

He was also an awesome wicket keeper. You have to have seen him to realise how good he was behind the stumps

Howe_zat · 07-01-2013, 03:36 PM

Curious that when Cricinfo ran this, Engineer wasn't even an option.

India all-time XI: Wicketkeeper | All-time XIs | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

Prince EWS · 07-01-2013, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

Curious that when Cricinfo ran this, Engineer wasn't even an option.

India all-time XI: Wicketkeeper | All-time XIs | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

I knew he didn't make their eleven, but not even making the shortlist is nuts. There probably aren't many more under-rated Test cricketers on that evidence.

Coronis · 07-01-2013, 04:14 PM

Farokh Engineer.

How he didn't make that shortlist I'll never know. Well done cricinfo

watson · 07-01-2013, 04:17 PM

Syed Kirmani

I saw enough of Kirmani during the 80s to convince me that he wasn't far off APE Knott in terms of skill. And maybe even better when standing up to the stumps because of his renowned stamina in hot Indian conditions. Apparently Kirmani had no breaking point and would be just as sharp when making a stumping at 6 pm as 11 am.

Admittedly not as talented as Engineer with the bat, but still a stubborn No.8 who scored some good runs against decent attacks and averaged 27.04

6th Test: India v West Indies at Chennai, Dec 24-29, 1983 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Teja. · 07-01-2013, 04:21 PM

Farokh Engineer

Sarun · 07-01-2013, 04:33 PM

I wanted to pick N Mongia for sentimental reasons.

Farokh Engineer

watson · 07-01-2013, 04:50 PM

I'm surprised that this is almost a done deal after a couple of minutes.

Blakus · 07-01-2013, 05:04 PM

Farokh Engineer for me too

kyear2 · 07-01-2013, 05:18 PM

Farokh Engineer

Think that this can more of less be called.

watson · 07-01-2013, 05:57 PM

OK, Farokh Engineer it is. Can't see Kirmani or anyone else making a comeback from here.

Wondering where to go now? I'm thinking bowlers.

Please select a TRIO of bowlers. That is, 2 opening bowlers and a first change.

It will be interesting to see whether the first change bowler is a third quick or a spinner;

Quicks
Javagal Srinath
Kapil Dev
Zaheer Khan
Mohammad Nissar
Amar Singh
etc

Spinners
Anil Kumble
Bishan Bedi
Erapilli Prasanna
Subhash Gupte
Bhagwah Chandrasekhar
etc

Please note that your 3 bowlers may influence who is later selected in the No.6 spot (eg. a specialist batsman, or an allrounder like Vinoo Mankad, or even Kapil Dev for the brave). So choose carefully.

hendrix · 07-01-2013, 06:12 PM

Kapil Dev
Javagal Srinath
Bishan Bedi

(Kumble 4th bowler)

I'd actually bowl Kumble before Bedi on most wickets, but Bedi is first picked spinner.

Daemon · 07-01-2013, 06:23 PM

Srinath and Dev

Abstain from 1st change

Coronis · 07-01-2013, 06:50 PM

Kapil Dev and Javagal Srinanth.

3rd bowler shall be Anil Kumble (may change to 4th)

watson · 07-01-2013, 07:30 PM

It appears (maybe) that most CWers will be choosing a spinner as their first change bowler. So in a way the first change bowler will be a popularity contest to see who India's all-time favourite spinner is.

Or will CWers do something farely unique and give the Indian ATG team a 3 man pace attack for a change.

This will be interesting!

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watson International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,646	Syed Kirmani I saw enough of Kirmani during the 80s to convince me that he wasn't far off APE Knott in terms of skill. And maybe even better when standing up to the stumps because of his renowned stamina in hot Indian conditions. Apparently Kirmani had no breaking point and would be just as sharp when making a stumping at 6 pm as 11 am. Admittedly not as talented as Engineer with the bat, but still a stubborn No.8 who scored some good runs against decent attacks and averaged 27.04 6th Test: India v West Indies at Chennai, Dec 24-29, 1983 \| Cricket Scorecard \| ESPN Cricinfo __________________ 1945-1977 ATG Draft: Desmond Haynes - Roy Fredericks - Rohan Kanhai - Neil Harvey - Clive Lloyd - Asif Iqbal - John Waite - Ray Lindwall - Garth McKenzie - John Snow - Derek Underwood ATG XI: Jack Hobbs - Len Hutton - Don Bradman - Brian Lara - Graham Pollock - Gary Sobers - Alan Knott - Malcolm Marshall - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee- Sydney Barnes Last edited by watson; 07-01-2013 at 04:19 PM.

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watson International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,646	OK, Farokh Engineer it is. Can't see Kirmani or anyone else making a comeback from here. Wondering where to go now? I'm thinking bowlers. Please select a TRIO of bowlers. That is, 2 opening bowlers and a first change. It will be interesting to see whether the first change bowler is a third quick or a spinner; Quicks Javagal Srinath Kapil Dev Zaheer Khan Mohammad Nissar Amar Singh etc Spinners Anil Kumble Bishan Bedi Erapilli Prasanna Subhash Gupte Bhagwah Chandrasekhar etc Please note that your 3 bowlers may influence who is later selected in the No.6 spot (eg. a specialist batsman, or an allrounder like Vinoo Mankad, or even Kapil Dev for the brave). So choose carefully. Last edited by watson; 07-01-2013 at 06:42 PM.

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07-01-2013, 04:14 PM	#64 (permalink)
Coronis U19 Captain Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NSW Posts: 650	Farokh Engineer. How he didn't make that shortlist I'll never know. Well done cricinfo

07-01-2013, 04:33 PM	#67 (permalink)
Sarun School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 63	I wanted to pick N Mongia for sentimental reasons. Farokh Engineer

07-01-2013, 04:50 PM	#68 (permalink)
watson International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,646	I'm surprised that this is almost a done deal after a couple of minutes.

07-01-2013, 05:04 PM	#69 (permalink)
Blakus State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,178	Farokh Engineer for me too

07-01-2013, 06:12 PM	#72 (permalink)
hendrix State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,273	Kapil Dev Javagal Srinath Bishan Bedi (Kumble 4th bowler) I'd actually bowl Kumble before Bedi on most wickets, but Bedi is first picked spinner.

07-01-2013, 06:23 PM	#73 (permalink)
Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,741	Srinath and Dev Abstain from 1st change

07-01-2013, 06:50 PM	#74 (permalink)
Coronis U19 Captain Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NSW Posts: 650	Kapil Dev and Javagal Srinanth. 3rd bowler shall be Anil Kumble (may change to 4th)

07-01-2013, 07:30 PM	#75 (permalink)
watson International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,646	It appears (maybe) that most CWers will be choosing a spinner as their first change bowler. So in a way the first change bowler will be a popularity contest to see who India's all-time favourite spinner is. Or will CWers do something farely unique and give the Indian ATG team a 3 man pace attack for a change. This will be interesting!

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