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    Fast bowling actions: side-on vs. front-on

    Which, in your opinion, is the generally more effective one? Obviously a hypothetical, but it'd be fascinating (not least to me) what their respective strengths and weaknesses are.

    Obviously, there are greats such as Lillee and Trueman who made side-on the fast bowler's orthodoxy for decades. Bowlers like Steyn and Jimmeh continue the proud tradition.

    On the other side of the coin, there's Wasim Akram, Malcolm Marshall and lately Vernon Philander of whom all preferred to expose both moobs at the point of release.

    So which one is more accurate? More swingy/seamy? More reverse-swingy? More inury-prone? More popular at various levels? Easier/harder to learn?

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    Any really successful bowlers out there with mixed actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Any really successful bowlers out there with mixed actions?
    no cause they all get injured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Any really successful bowlers out there with mixed actions?
    Only one I can think of is Donald. From memory he landed his back foot at 45 degrees to the crease.


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    Most good bowlers have had a combination of both from where I stand. Other than Lillee, young Waqar, Kapil in the modern era, I can't think of many other legends from the last 30 years who've had classically side on actions. Ambrose, Mcgrath, Donald, Pollock etc were all an angular proposition.

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    didn't Imran, Lillee, Kapil have side on actions?
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Wait Steyn bowls side on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachnodouche View Post
    Most good bowlers have had a combination of both from where I stand. Other than Lillee, young Waqar, Kapil in the modern era, I can't think of many other legends from the last 30 years who've had classically side on actions. Ambrose, Mcgrath, Donald, Pollock etc were all an angular proposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Wait Steyn bowls side on?
    awta, he's halfway. So is jimmeh.

    Getting totally side on in delivery stride is a waste of run-up momentumn. Imo, the reason more and more bowlers are becoming front on is because the optimal body flexion at the crease is around 45 degrees, any more than that and it's just extra effort dragging the body around.

    in short, a good action is about halfway between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachnodouche View Post
    Most good bowlers have had a combination of both from where I stand. Other than Lillee, young Waqar, Kapil in the modern era, I can't think of many other legends from the last 30 years who've had classically side on actions. Ambrose, Mcgrath, Donald, Pollock etc were all an angular proposition.
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    The problem with discussing technique in cricket, batting or bowling, or keeping for that matter, is that people tend to get side tracked into divisions based on classifications like orthodox versus unorthodox or traditionalists versus modernists etc.

    These are wrong and completely derail arguments from the logical and reasoning on the whys and what-fors of the technique being discussed to a discussion about the protagonists discussing the matter. This is sad for it prevents people from understanding the important aspects of the techniques and be objective about the basic grammar of the game and the reasons for and the effects of, if any, deviations from the rigid straight lines.

    Until people stop making this mistake, the arguments will never get anywhere in my humble opinion.

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    I knew you would post in here.

    I remember you making some fantastic posts on the side on action in the fast bowlers thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Only one I can think of is Donald. From memory he landed his back foot at 45 degrees to the crease.
    That's a midway action, not a mixed action.

    Mixed actions are when back foot and front foot / hips and shoulders don't align. Cue spinal meltdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    That's a midway action, not a mixed action.

    Mixed actions are when back foot and front foot / hips and shoulders don't align. Cue spinal meltdown.
    Like who? Ian Bishop?

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