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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    tbf, Onions is a far better bowler than the Surrey boys. And Stokes really should be blooded as an ODI player - he has the potential to be a quality player for England.
    Actually think Mustard was a decent t20 player too, not as good as Jos though, so it's obviously redundant now

    Not sure Onions is an ODI player, but yeah he's better than Dirtbag and Beaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    No Swann in the T20 or Pietersen in either.

    ECB managing their workloads, they just CBF or selectors looking at other options, do we think?

    Or any combo thereof?
    Well, I think they want to get Swann fully recovered from his shoulder thingy. A lot of important tests to come, and the Kiwi one's too.

    Yet it'll be good to see Bairstow and Buttler get a run of games, in the 50 over stuff.

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    I'm fine with no Woakes in ODI and T20. He probably deserves a test squad place. I'd go with him over Bresnan. Given his first class career it would be harsh to continually overlook him especially when Bresnan has performed as he has in recent times. I don't particularly think Woakes will succeed at test level but there has to be some kind of reward for continued excellence in the first class game - he deserves a chance to prove whether he is good enough.

    As always the Lions squad is probably more interesting than the full squads for English fans. It's interesting that Foakes is already the Lions wicketkeeper (no other WK in the squad) given he's only played 5 first class games and no ODI games. Must be rated highly- shame he is stuck behind Foster and Wheater at Essex. He is the second Wicketkeeper batsmen to do well out of the u19 world cup with De Kock making his international debut last week. Topley from the U19's also makes the squad, It will be an important tour for all those playing given the ashes and then the world cup are in consecutive years in Aus.

    Englands ODI squad looks its normal boring self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    unless new zealand want to only make england bat thrice, ryder, taylor, vettori and southee have to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    At least this will be a much better contest with Taylor, Ryder, and Vettori back.
    Doubt Ryder will be back tbh. Southee though.

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    Yeah I am not sure Ryder wants to be back under this management. He would certainly be an irreverent team member I suspect if selected.
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    Nah, I think it's still Ryder's goal to be back for the England series, provided Ross is back in the team as well. He's never had anything to do with Hesson, and he's meant to be pretty good mates with McCullum, so I don't think there's reason to believe that he'll stay out of the team because of the current administration.

    Don't think he'll help much in the tests with the way he's batting at the moment. Could still be pretty destructive in the limited overs matches though.

    Ronchi to score a couple of tons in the tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Yeah I am not sure Ryder wants to be back under this management. He would certainly be an irreverent team member I suspect if selected.
    When has he not been an irreverent team member? I hate how people include Ryder in this Taylor fiasco. The guy only has himself to blame. He might as well pack his bags and take the T20 route if he's not going to play the test matches in March next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Will be watching the carnage at the Dunedin and Wellington tests. Hoping for a NZ win, but will take Hesson being sacked as an acceptable alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    Live? If it lasts to a 4th and 5th day I'd like to go.
    Yep - I'm down there for days 3, 4 and 5. I'm assuming that at least one day will be treated to some typical Dunedin rain, so there should at least be play on days 3 and 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd619323 View Post
    Onions, Stokes and Mustard instead?
    I like Onions and Mustard.

    Pitty Lamb isn't available.
    Last edited by BeeGee; 16-01-2013 at 02:00 PM.

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    Lamb and mustard? What kind of weirdo freak are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Lamb and mustard? What kind of weirdo freak are you?
    Lamb, mustard and mayo. Yum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGee View Post
    I like Onions and Mustard.

    Pitty Lamb isn't available.
    Shock call up for Andrew Lamb to play for NZ?

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