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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    I don't think our batting will be that bad. Williamson, Ryder and Taylor is a solid 3-5. Add a fresh talent like a Will Young, and you have a pretty decent looking middle-order. Brownlie and Flynn will only be 31/32 in four years as well. Our keeper, and the openers will still drag the batting down, I guess. Southee/Boult will be in their prime as bowlers, and there is plenty of promising players coming through atm with Milne/Wheeler/Henry/Small/etc. Hopefully they don't injure themselves too regularly.
    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    NZ will be top 3.

    No need to be pessimistic here, we genuinely do have the most promising young bowling attack and there's enough in the batting department to be hopeful.
    Heh, such typical optimistic NZ posts .

    In theory in 3-4 years we could be mid-table and capable of upsetting the top teams with a good seam attack, 2.5 proper batsmen and a handy lower order. And looking at our current players that would appear possible. But don't worry - if this ever looks likely to occur some combination of NZC incompetence, infighting, injury and general **** ups will put paid to it. Still bitter.

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    4 years from now

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    NZ will be top 3.

    No need to be pessimistic here, we genuinely do have the most promising young bowling attack and there's enough in the batting department to be hopeful.

    Kallis is not such a big loss as Smith. Openers are a big issue in test cricket. Kallis is a great batsman and while his bowling is great too, it's a bonus. You simply can't stay at the top without a very good opener.

    Australia will up number 1 I think, they too have promising bowlers and I think Khawaja et al. will come good.

    Sri Lanka have enough veterans with good intentions that I am hopeful for any debutants they bring in. Sanga, Jayawardene, Vaas, Murali all care enough to pass on their knowledge and skills to the next generation. I think they will surprise us.

    It's going to be tough for India.

    West Indies, Zimbabwe, England I don't know enough about to comment on.
    So if a very good opener is required for a team to reach the top, how are NZ to reach the top 3 with middle order batsmen opening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoitsyou View Post
    So if a very good opener is required for a team to reach the top, how are NZ to reach the top 3 with middle order batsmen opening?
    because they always punch above their weight


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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    because they always punch above their weight
    pretty hard to do that if Jesse makes the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoitsyou View Post
    not if Jesse makes the side
    Has he retired or just out of favour as he is a bit of a prick?

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    He got the chuck for some random drinking incident last season and is now making cbf runs for Wellington, basically just having a swing and seeing if it works. If his second ball duck against Southee yesterday was in a test match it would win the worst dismissal thread by a long way.

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    in 4 yrs?

    1) Aus and Eng
    2) no one else. others will have stopped playing test cricket
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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    in 4 yrs?

    1) Aus and Eng
    2) no one else. others will have stopped playing test cricket
    probably more chance of that than New Zealand being top 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    Heh, such typical optimistic NZ posts .
    I'm still in that masochistic cycle of blind optimism followed by searing disappointment. Rinse and repeat.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoitsyou View Post
    So if a very good opener is required for a team to reach the top, how are NZ to reach the top 3 with middle order batsmen opening?
    the top is number one.

    I still think SA will be up there, but not number one.

    How many of the top 3 test sides would you say are "very good" right now?

    South Africa, maybe England. the playing field has evened out somewhat

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    I think Bangers will have 7 test standard players 4 years from now and will win the odd test against teams that take them lightly.
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    Bump, seems like an interesting concept.

    I'll go:

    South Africa - reaching the end of their reign with Steyn falling off, but their middle order is still pretty immense and their
    India - immense batting lineup will ensure plenty of home wins. If they can find another gun quick in all conditions they could even reach #1 again.
    New Zealand - reaching near the top, strong batting lineup and 3 pretty immense quicks, but are coming from a little too far back and the lack of Tests means more upsets than the other big sides.
    Australia - when fully fit, utterly peerless. But too many quicks are frustratingly absent and their batting is still fragile.

    England - declining due to their bowling being too raw. Good batting though and can do damage at home.
    Pakistan - strong bowling attack, but sans Younis and Misbah they lack the big name batsmen to take them higher.

    Sri Lanka - rebuilding. Mathews often seems like a one-man army though their other batsmen are often solid contributors, at least at home.
    West Indies - strong bowling, but their batting is poor and often underachieve.
    Bangladesh - improving, batting looks pretty solid and their spinners look OK, but they lack the quicks to win away from home.

    Zimbabwe - may be struggling to play regular Tests by 2018.
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    So re-reading the thread, Harris and Johnson really did ruin all our England predictions.

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