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    Donald and Steyn.
    - As featured in The Independent.

    "Predictably, the ending of his international career did not end the argument about Pietersen's merits, as an army of informed commentators and Piers Morgan weighed in to defend or attack him."
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    Donald and Pollock

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    Not sure that Shaun Pollock can be described as a new ball bowler in the context of an ATG team? Peter yes, Shaun no.
    Last edited by watson; 13-12-2012 at 07:38 PM.
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    Fully agree, still making up my mind between Steyn and Adcock to partner Donald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Not sure that Shaun Pollock can be described as a new ball bowler in the context of an ATG team? Peter yes, Shaun no.
    Why? He opened the bowling in almost every game he played and was successful doing it.

    Perfect when combined with Donald imo.

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    Strike rate too high and number of 5 wicket hauls too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Why? He opened the bowling in almost every game he played and was successful doing it.

    Perfect when combined with Donald imo.
    A medium pacer with boring figures against Australia doesn't excite me.

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    Tough one this.

    Donald and Steyn I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    A medium pacer with boring figures against Australia doesn't excite me.
    He was a good foil to Alan Donald early in his career, and to Ntini later. Kept one end tight, built pressure, let the more aggressive quick take the wickets from the other end.

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    Stats from the Past: The best new-ball pairs in Test cricket | Highlights | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

    Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald formed possibly the best new ball pair of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Stats from the Past: The best new-ball pairs in Test cricket | Highlights | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

    Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald formed possibly the best new ball pair of all time.
    Don't get me wrong, Shaun Pollock is an excellent bowler and would make a great first change bowler if I wasn't going to pick Procter as the superior bowling allrounder.

    But in my humble opinion both Steyn or Adcock would be significantly more formidable new ball partners to Donald if given the hypothetical chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Why? He opened the bowling in almost every game he played and was successful doing it.

    Perfect when combined with Donald imo.
    yeah... Pollock was mindblowing in the first half of his career... averaged something like 19 after 70 matches at more than 4 wpm iirc...

    his bowling lost penetration after that period and he became more of a container but for around 7-8 years he was up there with Donald. His career was very similar to Waqar i think
    Will have Pollock in the side but Steyns a better opening option imo.
    Donald and Steyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    A medium pacer with boring figures against Australia doesn't excite me.
    Well Donalds figures against Australia arent too flash either, are they?

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    Donald and Steyn

    Pollock is actually my first bowler picked but I want him at first change and we were told to pick the opening bowlers, so yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    I actually think the number of allrounders available means there's much more room for manouvre in this side.
    that's the exact thing i thought
    Indians can't bowl - Where has the rumour come from as I myself and many indian friends arwe competent fast bowlers ?

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