South Africa ATG - Open Voting - Page 9

BoyBrumby · 13-12-2012, 05:38 PM

Donald and Steyn.

Monk · 13-12-2012, 05:43 PM

Donald and Pollock

watson · 13-12-2012, 07:37 PM

Not sure that Shaun Pollock can be described as a new ball bowler in the context of an ATG team? Peter yes, Shaun no.

kyear2 · 13-12-2012, 07:43 PM

Fully agree, still making up my mind between Steyn and Adcock to partner Donald.

Monk · 13-12-2012, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watson

Not sure that Shaun Pollock can be described as a new ball bowler in the context of an ATG team? Peter yes, Shaun no.

Why? He opened the bowling in almost every game he played and was successful doing it.

Perfect when combined with Donald imo.

kyear2 · 13-12-2012, 08:09 PM

Strike rate too high and number of 5 wicket hauls too low.

watson · 13-12-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk

Why? He opened the bowling in almost every game he played and was successful doing it.

Perfect when combined with Donald imo.

A medium pacer with boring figures against Australia doesn't excite me.

zorax · 13-12-2012, 08:20 PM

Tough one this.

Donald and Steyn I suppose.

zorax · 13-12-2012, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watson

A medium pacer with boring figures against Australia doesn't excite me.

He was a good foil to Alan Donald early in his career, and to Ntini later. Kept one end tight, built pressure, let the more aggressive quick take the wickets from the other end.

8ankitj · 13-12-2012, 08:22 PM

Stats from the Past: The best new-ball pairs in Test cricket | Highlights | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald formed possibly the best new ball pair of all time.

watson · 13-12-2012, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8ankitj

Stats from the Past: The best new-ball pairs in Test cricket | Highlights | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald formed possibly the best new ball pair of all time.

Don't get me wrong, Shaun Pollock is an excellent bowler and would make a great first change bowler if I wasn't going to pick Procter as the superior bowling allrounder.

But in my humble opinion both Steyn or Adcock would be significantly more formidable new ball partners to Donald if given the hypothetical chance.

Satyanash89 · 13-12-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk

Why? He opened the bowling in almost every game he played and was successful doing it.

Perfect when combined with Donald imo.

yeah... Pollock was mindblowing in the first half of his career... averaged something like 19 after 70 matches at more than 4 wpm iirc...

his bowling lost penetration after that period and he became more of a container but for around 7-8 years he was up there with Donald. His career was very similar to Waqar i think
Will have Pollock in the side but Steyns a better opening option imo.
Donald and Steyn

Satyanash89 · 13-12-2012, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watson

A medium pacer with boring figures against Australia doesn't excite me.

Well Donalds figures against Australia arent too flash either, are they?

Prince EWS · 13-12-2012, 10:59 PM

Donald and Steyn

Pollock is actually my first bowler picked but I want him at first change and we were told to pick the opening bowlers, so yeah.

Spikey · 13-12-2012, 11:02 PM

really late

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

I actually think the number of allrounders available means there's much more room for manouvre in this side.

that's the exact thing i thought

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watson International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,640	Not sure that Shaun Pollock can be described as a new ball bowler in the context of an ATG team? Peter yes, Shaun no. __________________ 1945-1977 ATG Draft: Desmond Haynes - Roy Fredericks - Rohan Kanhai - Neil Harvey - Clive Lloyd - Asif Iqbal - John Waite - Ray Lindwall - Garth McKenzie - John Snow - Derek Underwood ATG XI: Jack Hobbs - Len Hutton - Don Bradman - Brian Lara - Graham Pollock - Gary Sobers - Alan Knott - Malcolm Marshall - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee- Sydney Barnes Last edited by watson; 13-12-2012 at 07:38 PM.

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13-12-2012, 05:43 PM	#122 (permalink)
Monk International Debutant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2,550	Donald and Pollock

13-12-2012, 08:09 PM	#126 (permalink)
kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,490	Strike rate too high and number of 5 wicket hauls too low.

13-12-2012, 08:20 PM	#128 (permalink)
zorax First Class Debutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 880	Tough one this. Donald and Steyn I suppose.

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8ankitj International Captain Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad India Posts: 5,148	Stats from the Past: The best new-ball pairs in Test cricket \| Highlights \| Cricinfo Magazine \| ESPN Cricinfo Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald formed possibly the best new ball pair of all time.

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