South Africa ATG - Open Voting - Page 2

fredfertang · 10-12-2012, 11:45 PM

Barry Richards, obviously, and ............................
.............
Graeme Smith - now I've spat that out please don't ask me to say his name again

Monk · 10-12-2012, 11:48 PM

Barry Richards and Graeme Smith.

Howe_zat · 10-12-2012, 11:52 PM

Richards and Mitchell

AndyZaltzHair · 10-12-2012, 11:54 PM

Barry Richards
Bruce Mitchell

Days of Grace · 10-12-2012, 11:56 PM

Richards and Smith

BoyBrumby · 11-12-2012, 12:03 AM

Richards & Mitchell.

Mitchell's tally of 42 tests over 20 years sounds meagre, but he actually played every one of the (then) Springboks' tests from debut to untimely dropping.

Nowadays it's a fair guess he'd have nigh on 200 tests to his name.

harsh.skm · 11-12-2012, 12:06 AM

Barry Richards and Graeme Smith.
Also, Bruce Mitchell's bowling record kinda shows that literally anybody could have a good bowling record during that period.

LongHopCassidy · 11-12-2012, 01:07 AM

Barry Richards and Graeme Smith.

Barlow a simmed-match bully.

JBMAC · 11-12-2012, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy

Barry Richards and Graeme Smith.

Barlow a simmed-match bully.

An explanation please. I was lucky enough to see Barlow's century at The Gabba in '63. As fine a knock as I have ever seen.Totally belligerent and in command of the Aussie bowling attack.Three things stand out in my mind from that match.
1. Barlows Hundred
2. Booths 160 odd
3. Benauds "five for" in the second SA innings

Garson007 · 11-12-2012, 01:27 AM

Smith and Kirsten.

watson · 11-12-2012, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBMAC

An explanation please. I was lucky enough to see Barlow's century at The Gabba in '63. As fine a knock as I have ever seen.Totally belligerent and in command of the Aussie bowling attack.Three things stand out in my mind from that match.
1. Barlows Hundred
2. Booths 160 odd
3. Benauds "five for" in the second SA innings

And here is the scorecard from that Brisbane Test;
1st Test: Australia v South Africa at Brisbane, Dec 6-11, 1963 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

And here is the Lord's scorecard from that 'Simmed' series. Barlow scored 119 against Snow, Ward, Shuttleworth, Underwood, and Illingworth;
England v Rest of the World XI at Lord's, Jun 17-22, 1970 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Edgar Barlow was pretty close to being Barry Richard's partner for my ATG RSA team because he was also a great slips-fielder and handy 5th bowler/partnership breaker, besides being a highly competent batsman.

However, if you check out the bowlers he faced then it is obvious that he was lucky enough to play inbetween the eras of Davidson and Lillee, Hall and Roberts. He also missed out on playing against Trueman, and Snow or Willis in a real Series. No disrepect to Graham McKenzie (dismissed Barlow the most times - 8) but he not quite in the same class as any of those fast bowlers.

HowSTAT! Player Dismissal Analysis

Rasimione · 11-12-2012, 01:46 AM

Richards and Smith. surely its not too hard. Smith does not get the recognition he deservrs. the guy is a 4 innings monster ffs.

Howe_zat · 11-12-2012, 01:50 AM

I'm pretty sure that in the side we pick Barlow will struggle to get a bowl, he would be behind Kallis and as such be the 6th or maybe 7th bowler, depending on how many allrounders are picked.

Teja. · 11-12-2012, 02:04 AM

Richards and Mitchell

Barlow not picked for the reason given by Howe

fredfertang · 11-12-2012, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

I'm pretty sure that in the side we pick Barlow will struggle to get a bowl, he would be behind Kallis and as such be the 6th or maybe 7th bowler, depending on how many allrounders are picked.

I'm a great fan of Eddie Barlow and was tempted to pick him rather than the bloke I did eventually decide should partner Barry Richards, but this is an excellent point. As a minimum Kallis, Procter and Sean Pollock are going to be selected and, unless Eddie is skipper or just refuses to give the ball back until he gets a bowl, theyre all going to bowl before him

Overall I suspect there is going to be a greater degree of agreement on this side than the others, by a comfortable margin

10-12-2012, 11:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Days of Grace International Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Takasaki, Japan Posts: 3,856	Richards and Smith __________________ Greatest Ever Test XI (according to my ratings): Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman (c), Headley, Lara, Sobers, Gilchrist (wk), Hadlee, Marshall, Steyn, Muralitharan 12th man: Imran Khan Favorite XI: Grace (c), Trumper, Richards, Lara, Compton, Gilchrist (wk), Cairns, Jessop, Warne, Bond, Trueman

11-12-2012, 12:03 AM	#21 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,646	Richards & Mitchell. Mitchell's tally of 42 tests over 20 years sounds meagre, but he actually played every one of the (then) Springboks' tests from debut to untimely dropping. Nowadays it's a fair guess he'd have nigh on 200 tests to his name. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,737	Barry Richards, obviously, and ............................ ............. Graeme Smith - now I've spat that out please don't ask me to say his name again

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harsh.skm U19 Captain Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: India Posts: 656	Barry Richards and Graeme Smith. Also, Bruce Mitchell's bowling record kinda shows that literally anybody could have a good bowling record during that period.

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Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,889	I'm pretty sure that in the side we pick Barlow will struggle to get a bowl, he would be behind Kallis and as such be the 6th or maybe 7th bowler, depending on how many allrounders are picked.

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