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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasimione View Post
    so by this you believe Kallis is a cricket God? Fits your definition to a tee.
    Indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasimione View Post
    so by this you believe Kallis is a cricket God? ...
    Is that a trick question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
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    This for me as well please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garson007 View Post
    Mike Procter
    Shaun Pollock

    You guys honestly going to leave Pollock out? He can tie up an end better than a spinner.
    It doesn't sit well with me either, but Kallis's presence means a second spinner, if he's of comparable quality to a fifth seamer (& Tayfield is, at worst, that) is going to be more useful.

    Polly's batting would be nice, but given Proctor (probz)/keeper at seven and eight it's less of a factor.

    &, yes, I did vote for a fourth specialist seamer ahead of Gibbs in the WI AT XI before some clever **** points it out (looking at PEWS mainly here), but that's because I think Garner/Holding (depending who one ranks fourth) is a markedly better option than Big Lance.
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    Shaun Pollock and Mike Proctor although if I was voting for a spinner I'd vote for Vogler over Tayfield

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    Vogler did great when toured England and performed exceptionally on matting pitches in 1910 season but soon was found less threatening in next season in Australia. That's the only hole maybe but he was a great bowler and many rated him as the best in his time. Think he's a bit underrated too.

    Found this description of his bowling amazing-

    At his best Vogler reached the highest class as a bowler. Delivering the off-break with a leg-break action, while depending chiefly upon the leg-break, he became exceptionally difficult and deceptive by the skill with which he used the reverse break and his variations of pace. Scarcely any batsman claimed that he could detect differences in Vogler's delivery of either the googly or the leg-break. Vogler also mixed the off-break with a ball which came straight through at greater pace, and occasionally sent down a most deceptive slow yorker. A bowler of infinite resource, he could keep going for a long time without losing length
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    Procter and S Pollock.

    Would've picked Tayfield but guess Faulkner will be the spinner. I have doubts on Faulkner's bowling though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Procter was a top class batsman - you don't get six consecutive first class centuries by being a fast bowler with a good eye - he was quality
    Interesting. Would love to know more on Procter. You actually think he is better than Sobers, Imran and Botham?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    It doesn't sit well with me either, but Kallis's presence means a second spinner, if he's of comparable quality to a fifth seamer (& Tayfield is, at worst, that) is going to be more useful.

    Polly's batting would be nice, but given Proctor (probz)/keeper at seven and eight it's less of a factor.

    &, yes, I did vote for a fourth specialist seamer ahead of Gibbs in the WI AT XI before some clever **** points it out (looking at PEWS mainly here), but that's because I think Garner/Holding (depending who one ranks fourth) is a markedly better option than Big Lance.
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    Procter and Tayfield.
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    Procter and Tayfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelf7777777 View Post
    Shaun Pollock and Mike Proctor although if I was voting for a spinner I'd vote for Vogler over Tayfield
    Thanks for mentioning Bert Vogler as I hadn't heard of him before. Seems like a worthy challenger to Tayfield's spot.

    Another interesting spinner is Cyril Vincent;

    Cyril Vincent, who died on August 24, 1968, aged 66, was a left-arm spinner and capable lower-order batsman who played 25 Tests for South Africa between 1927-28 and 1935. However, he only ever played in two Currie Cup matches, apparently because he could not get time off work. He was renowned for bowling long spells tirelessly. At Durban in 1930-31 he took 6 for 51 against England to secure the rubber for South Africa and he had match figures of 8 for 149 in the Headingley Test of 1935. He was later chairman of the South African selectors.
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