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Faulkner. Averaged over 40 in the golden age. Could hold a bat.
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Faulkner's numbers could be somewhat misleading.
Againts Australia he averaged 62 with the bat and 50 (s/r 81) with the ball
Againts England he averaged 30 with the bat and 21 (s/r 45) with the ball
With the bat he only had two good years where he averaged over 23
1906 - 18
1907 - 23
1910 - 66
1911 - 69
1912 - 19
1924 - 18
From this it seems that he only batted well in good batting conditions and bowled well in helpful bowling conditions and in both instances struggled in the other dicipline. His batting also showed inconsistentcy and frankly cames across as a FTB with both bat and ball.
Again Kallis is the second best All Rounder to play the game and the team is good enough with hin supporting three great quicks (Steyn, Donald and Procter) with Tayfied as the spinning option.
An All Rounder to me is someone who can legitimately bat in the top order (at worst # 7) and also servive at the least as the team's fifth bolwer. Not too many players did that better than Kallis.
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Originally Posted by John Singleton
I'd really like to have chosen a keeper first, tbh.
His batting is a factor in the picking of #6.
Faulkner, as is tho.
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In 1906, Faulkner played one series against England and the conditions were extremely tough. Low scores were made mostly through out the series and England hardly reached 200 in the series. South Africa won it 4-1. Faulkner did not get to bat in 2 Innings, remained Not Out in one and got run out in one. Most of the batting failed in the series, can't only nitpick Faulkner there.
In 1907, also one series against England and he remained Not Out in the drawn 1st Match, scorecard read like this in 2nd Match- 76 (Eng), 110 (SA), 162 (Eng), 75 (SA); Faulkner picked up 6/17 in 11 overs. Faulkner went out to open for the first time (?) in 3rd Match and scored 2, 42 in a drawn match.
One could argue he had only one bad year that was when he lost his form in 1912 after scoring 122* against Australia. In 1924, he played only one Test Match.The return of the English side to South Africa in 1909/10 for a five Test series saw Faulkner at the height of his skills and had many, including Wisden, calling him the best all-rounder in the world, as he was the leading run scorer from either team, scoring 545 runs at 60.55 and the second highest wicket taker with 29 at 21.89. Faulkner then carried this form into his next series, against Australia in Australia in 1910/11. In the five Test series, Faulkner scored 732 runs at 73.20, including a highest score of 204 in the second Test at Melbourne and took 10 wickets at 51.40.
Last edited by AndyZaltzHair; 15-12-2012 at 08:11 AM.
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My definition: An all-rounder is someone that wins you runs; someone who averages more with the bat than the ball.
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