The class of mid 00's - Page 2

Agent Nationaux · 07-12-2012, 03:58 PM

This decade so far belongs to Clarke, Cook and Amla.

To think Cook was about to be dropped after the Pakistan controversial series.

GIMH · 07-12-2012, 04:03 PM

He wasn't 'about' to be dropped. The media speculated he was under pressure. Whether he actually was, only insiders could tell you. I'd personally say he was always going to play in The Ashes, he'd stood in for Strauss in Bangladesh, I don't think Carberry made the squad (happy to be corrected on this) which meant that, of the batsmen other than Strauss & Cook, only Ian Bell had any (Test) opening experience, which was two low scores when standing in for Strauss away to India in 06.

Don't get me wrong, your general point is spot on; his turnaround in form has been sensational. But a bit of revisionism/creativity happens when it comes to whether his place was actually under threat back then.

Agent Nationaux · 07-12-2012, 04:17 PM

My bad, I meant there was a lot of pressure from all corners.

GIMH · 07-12-2012, 04:18 PM

Yeah, I wasn't having a go at you. Just one of those things.

uvelocity · 07-12-2012, 04:45 PM

saw some flog extrapolate c00ks figures out to 18k runs on farcebook this morning

GIMH · 07-12-2012, 04:53 PM

How's that work?

Oh, you mean over a career?

uvelocity · 07-12-2012, 05:22 PM

well I've not checked the maths at all but;

Alastair Cook's projected career record if he retires in 2022 at the age of 37, based on his current record: Tests-229, Innings-403, Runs 18,832 and 100s-61

GIMH · 07-12-2012, 05:35 PM

Well that's completely retarded.

He'll obviously play until he's 42.

TNT · 07-12-2012, 06:16 PM

M Hussey worth a mention.

Spark · 07-12-2012, 06:27 PM

A lot of this depends on whether Clarke and Amla continue their insane form for another 3-4 years or whether this is just a briefer purple patch.

Howe_zat · 07-12-2012, 08:11 PM

You get the impression both have genuinely come into their own as batsmen rather than just being in good nick, though. Clarke especially has had very good runs of form before, but nothing like he'sproducing now.

Jager · 08-12-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Arachnodouche

KP has already left plenty of lasting memories for mine. He's the only real genius-level batsman going around. The rest are extremely good but not in the same league as the previous generation's top 3-4.

Clarke's in there for me in terms of attacking batsmanship, Amla and Cook are near-unbreakable too but it's a different role they play.

Spark · 08-12-2012, 01:50 AM

Think we can safely say that Amla can attack, tbf. Clarke almost unmatched when it comes to moving between the gears, though. Can go from watchful to all-out-attack in the space of a few deliveries.

Jono · 08-12-2012, 01:57 AM

Yeah odd time to doubt Amla's attacking ability. 99 in a session!

fredfertang · 08-12-2012, 02:22 AM

Hasn't Clarke suffered from a dodgy back in the past? Which presumably has resolved itself

If so I'd like the contact details of his osteopath - my back held back my batting career too, and my bowling come to that

07-12-2012, 04:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	He wasn't 'about' to be dropped. The media speculated he was under pressure. Whether he actually was, only insiders could tell you. I'd personally say he was always going to play in The Ashes, he'd stood in for Strauss in Bangladesh, I don't think Carberry made the squad (happy to be corrected on this) which meant that, of the batsmen other than Strauss & Cook, only Ian Bell had any (Test) opening experience, which was two low scores when standing in for Strauss away to India in 06. Don't get me wrong, your general point is spot on; his turnaround in form has been sensational. But a bit of revisionism/creativity happens when it comes to whether his place was actually under threat back then. __________________ Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

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Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,268	My bad, I meant there was a lot of pressure from all corners. Last edited by Agent Nationaux; 07-12-2012 at 04:29 PM.

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07-12-2012, 03:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,268	This decade so far belongs to Clarke, Cook and Amla. To think Cook was about to be dropped after the Pakistan controversial series.

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	Yeah, I wasn't having a go at you. Just one of those things.

07-12-2012, 04:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	How's that work? Oh, you mean over a career?

07-12-2012, 05:22 PM	#22 (permalink)
uvelocity Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: seamy road Posts: 8,249	well I've not checked the maths at all but; Alastair Cook's projected career record if he retires in 2022 at the age of 37, based on his current record: Tests-229, Innings-403, Runs 18,832 and 100s-61

07-12-2012, 05:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	Well that's completely retarded. He'll obviously play until he's 42.

07-12-2012, 08:11 PM	#26 (permalink)
Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,832	You get the impression both have genuinely come into their own as batsmen rather than just being in good nick, though. Clarke especially has had very good runs of form before, but nothing like he'sproducing now.

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Spark Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: A Blood Rainbow Posts: 26,749	Think we can safely say that Amla can attack, tbf. Clarke almost unmatched when it comes to moving between the gears, though. Can go from watchful to all-out-attack in the space of a few deliveries.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,478	Yeah odd time to doubt Amla's attacking ability. 99 in a session!

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fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,718	Hasn't Clarke suffered from a dodgy back in the past? Which presumably has resolved itself If so I'd like the contact details of his osteopath - my back held back my batting career too, and my bowling come to that

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