And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
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Kevin Pietersen is the only 'special' batsman for this decade. I am pretty sure in future many of his knocks would be right up there with the special knocks played by Lara, Tendulkar and Ponting.
Amla - getting there.. I think people would talk about him the way we talk about Dravid today..
Cook - a run machine.. I am pretty sure he will end up as England's highest run scorer for all time..I think he will be remembered like an Allan Border kind of player..he will score tons of runs and centuries...but when it comes to the truly outstanding batsmen of this era, I don't think his name will be up there simply because of the way he plays..
Not to undermine stats and records but there are a few other areas I appreciate and like to see other than pure stats...among them being aesthetics, style, attitude, temperament, courage etc..which is why I rate someone who barely has 8000 test runs and barely averages 50 and whose tally of hundreds are overtaken by the likes of Mahelas as the greatest of them all.
Honestly I have been quite perplexed that Australians generally pick Border over Ponting in their all Time XI.. Its sad people just remember Ponting's last 2 years just because its recent.
Last edited by Black_Warrior; 12-12-2012 at 08:10 PM.
I do think he was perhaps a little closer to being dropped than you're putting across, too. There were members of this forum who weren't pick him in their touring parties to Australia and while he was probably going to play the whole Ashes regardless, he was definitely getting the chop afterwards if he failed and he may have been replaced on the tour if the series was close and he was looking particularly poor. "About to be dropped if he didn't make a score in the series" just about sums it up for me.
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Moeen is a perfectly fine bowler FFS
Yeah Trott did open that one Test, good point.
He might have been dropped during the series had his miseries continued but I don't personally believe they ever considered seriously not playing him in the 1st Ashes Test. I think he was always going to get that series.
Up until his ton at the Oval against Pakistan, Cook was definitely in a "hmm, we might need to think about replacing this guy" trough of form. He'd been **** all summer, fairly arse against the Aussies in 2009 and hadn't scored a Test century at all in 2008.
Had a good tour of SA in 2009/10 though.
It was actually his ton in Durban that made me stick with him, as he'd been woefully out of nick and was against a good attack but still managed to eke out a hundred anyway.
No doubt, Cook was on the verge of being dropped. He absolutely was so. Thankfully he got a score and he wasn't.
I honestly think this fella could break cricketing records and I mean Tendulkar style. He is insatiable for runs and he has relatively few weaknesses. Once he's in, he goes absolutely massive. He'll score 350 one day I don't doubt. Doesn't play outside his areas at all and is reliable for at least one score every Test.
Last edited by Black_Warrior; 13-12-2012 at 10:01 PM.
I find the assertion that you'll find batsmen higher on the "courage/attitude" scale than Border very hard to believe. That's basically what defined him as a batsman.
Originally Posted by Peter Mooresforever 63*
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