**Official** New Zealand in South Africa

[morgieb]

Wow, if that was out this could've been nasty.

Now Amla will get 150+

 

[Howsie]

My reaction too. He's normally the 'seam' man. Bond must have worked with him.

Nah he's always been an out and out swing bowler, just lost it the last few months.

 

[morgieb]

Saved by Hotspot, NZ lose a referral.

Given that most of SA's top order aerage more than NZ's total, I don't think they have too much to worry about.

Eh?

CricInfo are saying that SA referred it. They're probably wrong though.

 

[Cabinet96]

Reckon Boult could trouble both batsmen here if he can find some consistent in-swing.

 

[Burgey]

11-48 day one of a test has to be a record

 

[Prince EWS]

Eh?

CricInfo are saying that SA referred it. They're probably wrong though.

They are wrong. NZ referred it.

 

[Mike5181]

I don't think anyone would claim NZ wouldn't have won if Taylor was there, but there's no way the team would be in the absolute sorry state of affairs they were leading into this tour if it wasn't for Hesson. If you can't see that, you can't see anything.

There's a huge difference between acknowledging the difference Taylor would've made in the batting line up, and using his absence as the reason for why we were bowled out for 45. That's what Hurricane is doing, and I disagree with him. I'm not a Hesson fan at all. Taylor should absolutely still be captain.

 

[M0rphin3]

Will take 150 AO here tbh. Unlikely tho.

 

[Zinzan]

Nah he's always been an out and out swing bowler, just lost it the last few months.

I first saw him in the Champions league with CD, he seemed to get swing then, but since then he seemed to be a more into the deck seam bowler. Trying to think back to his match winning spell against Aust as to whether he got more wickets due to seam or swing. I can't recall.

 

[Mike5181]

Good to see Dougie get one early. Hopefully the Boult/Bracewell combo can do some damage here.

 

[Flem274*]

I first saw him in the Champions league with CD, he seemed to get swing then, but since then he seemed to be a more into the deck seam bowler. Trying to think back to his match winning spell against Aust as to whether he got more wickets due to seam or swing. I can't recall.

Well that deck was a greenie, so it was both iirc, but domestically his main weapon was always swing. It's only since coming into the Black Caps that the hit the deck traditional third seamer role has been trialled with him.

 

[Tricia McMillan]

Hey all, I just woke up from a nightmare where we were bowled out for 45.

How's the real match going?

 

[wellAlbidarned]

I first saw him in the Champions league with CD, he seemed to get swing then, but since then he seemed to be a more into the deck seam bowler. Trying to think back to his match winning spell against Aust as to whether he got more wickets due to seam or swing. I can't recall.

Both. Some deliveries would swing like the one that got Huss, others jagged sharply like the one to castle Lyon.

 

[Mike5181]

Philander's record is so ridiculously awesome. 72 wickets @ 16.83.

 

[centurymaker]

Philander's record is so ridiculously awesome. 72 wickets @ 16.83.

yeah despite his ordinary performances in ENG and AUS.

 

[Spark]

yeah despite his ordinary performances in ENG and AUS.

Philander wasn't great here, sure (though he was good at Perth) but I don't think he was "ordinary" in England.

 

[Mike5181]

yeah despite his ordinary performances in ENG and AUS.

Averaging 12 with the ball against us helped a bit.

 

[Daemon]

Good of the commentary team to mention Greig.

Used to like Pommie Mbangwa alot more when he had dreadlocks

 

[Jono]

yeah despite his ordinary performances in ENG and AUS.

Philander wasn't great here, sure (though he was good at Perth) but I don't think he was "ordinary" in England.

Ordinary is how you would probably describe him in England before the word "ordinary" was hijacked for poor.

 

[Teja.]

yeah despite his ordinary performances in ENG and AUS.

Philander was extremely tight during the England series when the ball was not doing much and ****ing invincible when charged on.

Bowling statistics for the series are:

Philander - 12 wickets @ 23.66
Steyn - 15 wickets @ 29.20
Morkel - 11 wickets @ 34.54
Broad - 11 wickets @ 39.7
Finn - 10 wickets @ 32.2
Anderson - wickets @ 40.66

Unless by ordinary - you mean by his usual standards.