I'd take Martin because he's had more success against SA, although Wagner does have experience in SA.....
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Wagner, because we need the runs.
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I would go with Wagner, more for his ability with an older ball to get it to reverse.
That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if both played instead of Bracewell
Wagner or Martin? It's depressing either way
Martin, because according to sauces Wagner has issues with scuffing the wrong side of the ball up apparently (haven't seen enough red ball cricket of him to know, so disregard if I'm wrong), and Marto has a fantastic record against and in South Africa.
I don't expect Marto to be great, but he won't affect the performance of the other bowlers.
I don't expect much from this series, but I have calmed down enough to hope we win. I still think Hesson is a chump and McCullum is the wrong choice as skipper, but there are 10 other players on the field and I've never believed in the "hope we lose for the greater good" mantra because NZ have done enough losing for two test nations and more losing won't change anything because NZC will always stick their heads in the sand.
Hesson will be gone soon enough. It's a shame because by all accounts he brings an attention to detail that I think could have benefitted this side but his forays into shenanigans have damaged his effectiveness, reputation and probably his future career prospects.
Besides, we're going to lose regardless so no need to hope for it.
Last edited by Flem274*; 29-12-2012 at 11:05 PM.
I think it was Doull that noticed Wagner was scuffing the wrong side of the ball up when we were playing the West Indies.
The thing about this Hesson/McCullum hate from within New Zealand is, no one outside the country actually cares. People who watch cricket around the world only care about their own team, and how much of a challenge we're going to be. They won't turn on the TV and watch us play if we're consistently losing, bringing over half-strength squads etc. The perception of our team is only going to get worse. You can already see the "stepping stone" articles that have been coming out lately to see everyone views our team as an absolute joke. I hope by the time the England series comes along, we have a proper full-strength side, and people can just pretend to get along. I had to watch us lose 4-0 to ****ing Bangladesh, and now all this bull**** is going on. Imagine this team with Southee, Taylor, Ryder, and maybe Vettori. We could actually look like a half decent side. I haven't seen one of those from us in ages.
That and our lower order will be ridiculously **** if he plays.
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What is the point of calling a warmup match off early? It's about the practice, not the result. And it's not like we don't need the practice.
That SA side didn't do too badly considering they were only their second tier first class players.
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