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[Blain]

Originally Posted by Viscount Tom

If you took 20 years off Andy Flower made him into a **** and a Kiwi then remove any osrt of use as a coach you'd get Hesson.

PEWS doesn't know where h's from.

Also
New Zealand in South Africa 2012-13 : McClenaghan added to New Zealand Test squad | Cricket News | South Africa v New Zealand | ESPN Cricinfo

How does he get picked I mean forgive me if I've missed something but an average of nearly 40 in FC seems somewhat high to be at the front of the queue.

To be fair on Mitch, his average was very high when he first came on the scene. Always bowled fast but broke down alot and got hit. Came back after a season or 2 last year and took a sh*t load of wickets late in the season. Has been consistant and dangerous this season, and tbf is the pick of the bunch who aren't injurred, or old and already tried. It's a good move getting him into the camp, get some work in with Bond and Martin will be first in, followed by Wagner.

If Bracewell was a bunny with the bat, he wouldn't be a starter for me. He needs to find his out swing again, barely moving it in the air atm. Thats what made him successful along with his seam off the pitch.

[hendrix]

Bracewell was much better in the second test. I realise he only took 2 wickets, but noone else would've taken those 2 if he hadn't.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Blain

If Bracewell was a bunny with the bat, he wouldn't be a starter for me. He needs to find his out swing again, barely moving it in the air atm. Thats what made him successful along with his seam off the pitch.

Very accurate assessment. I was thinking the same thing earlier today. Needs to find his swing otherwise he will be an ineffective Brent Arnel/Ishant Sharma type bowler.

[wellAlbidarned]

It seems like they've messed with his action to make him fit the stereotype "hit the deck third seamer" role, he's releasing it from twelve o'clock rather than the one o'clock of your typical outswing bowler such as Southee.

[hendrix]

he was always a "hit-the-deck" seamer though, at least from what I've seen.

Even seamers will get a bit of swing in very swing-friendly conditions (e.g. Siddle in today's test got some), and that's why he got a bit of swing in Hobart, but he's always looked like a seamer to me.

[Hurricane]

First time I saw him was in that famous T20 at the champions league for CD. And he was swinging it every ball iirc.

[Bahnz]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

First time I saw him was in that famous T20 at the champions league for CD. And he was swinging it every ball iirc.

Yeah, Bracewell used to swing it around corners. But I don't think we should judge him until we see how he goes in SA. It's hard to get the ball to swing in the sub continent, especially if you have to have to wait 15-20 overs before getting a hold of the ball.

[wellAlbidarned]

Originally Posted by Bahnz

Yeah, Bracewell used to swing it around corners. But I don't think we should judge him until we see how he goes in SA. It's hard to get the ball to swing in the sub continent, especially if you have to have to wait 15-20 overs before getting a hold of the ball.

His seam release pretty bad too though, he didn't look like he would've swung it anywhere the way he was bowling.

[Howsie]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

First time I saw him was in that famous T20 at the champions league for CD. And he was swinging it every ball iirc.

Yep, the season before he made his international debut he was bowling big booming outswingers, was fabulous to watch.

[Kippax]

He's swinging it in a bit here. I've included two balls from Milne first, for the lulz -
ACLT20 -12th Match: Warriors v Central Stags Highlights - YouTube

[Kippax]

Sep 2010 vs. Dec 2012 - YouTube

[wellAlbidarned]

Just finishing up for the night, about to go to bed, check cricinfo, suddenly notice that this one starts in half an hour. Though it was 5 like all the others. I have no choice now...

[wellAlbidarned]

Originally Posted by Kippax

Sep 2010 vs. Dec 2012 - YouTube

They're actually absolutely identical now that someone's shown it, I wonder what these changes were that they talked about.

[Briony]

SA will bat first. They have a funny team playing with Ontong amazingly given yet another chance. Phangiso gets to play again too. Looks like its experiment time.

Sad that these teams can't play a test match on Boxing Day.

[hendrix]

South Africa has the nicest anthem.