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[Flem274*]

Fulton was a gun in ODIs until after the 2007 world cup.

[TT Boy]

Originally Posted by Chubb

Hmmm well I based that off some stuff I remember when he did quite well v Australia and England in 06-07. You might well be right.

If he doesn't get bounced out, the concrete feet will give him away. Alongside Peter Ingram, he is as limited technically as it comes.

Worry for the NZ batsman is that most of them don't have a back foot game and on their last few tours here they have just been annihilated by back of a length pace. Probably helps them that the two venues for the tests probably won't be lightening quick.

[Flem274*]

Hmm, I don't think it will be specifically back of a length pace that damns us. Williamson, McCullum, Flynn and Brownlie are pretty strong in that area. If anything I'd target someone like Brownlie on the front foot or with his best mate spin.

It's the general leap in pace bowling quality from SL and India that will kill us. Well that and general incompetence.

[ohnoitsyou]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Hmm, I don't think it will be specifically back of a length pace that damns us. Williamson, McCullum, Flynn and Brownlie are pretty strong in that area. If anything I'd target someone like Brownlie on the front foot or with his best mate spin.

It's the general leap in pace bowling quality from SL and India that will kill us. Well that and general incompetence.

While i agree with you, Williamson is at his weakest back of a length off off stump. I expect Philander will target this area and get his wicket nearly match.

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by jcas0167

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SL pace attack has fizz, but WI's doesn't?? News to me..

No Taylor = NZ are ****ed. I expect SA bowlers to absolutely clean up, sadly.

[morgieb]

Originally Posted by TT Boy

Did Jimmy Neesham ever comeback here once he made it?

I don't think so.

[Garson007]

Originally Posted by BeeGee

Weird schedule. T20 then Tests then ODIs.

The first test was cancelled to introduce some T20s.

[Garson007]

Originally Posted by TT Boy

Probably helps them that the two venues for the tests probably won't be lightening quick.

St. George's Park has always been very flat, hasn't it?

[Bahnz]

Originally Posted by straw man

Really? The Peter Fulton I remember didn't like the ball above knee height, particularly in the years after he stopped bothering to move his feet.

Nah, there's nothing that Fulton loves more than rocking back and creaming a bouncer of backward square for 6.

[hendrix]

Originally Posted by Bahnz

Nah, there's nothing that Fulton loves more than rocking back and creaming a bouncer of backward square for 6.

with those players it tends to depend how fast the bouncers are.

I seem to remember him looking a bit out of his depth against the likes of Lee (and/or Tait) one series.

Could be someone else i'm thinking of though.

[SeamUp]

Originally Posted by Garson007

St. George's Park has always been very flat, hasn't it?

Definitely not very flat.

There will be some nibble around and spin can be used successfully as well. Don't want to drop to short there though with the slow tennis ball bounce.

[Garson007]

Originally Posted by SeamUp

Definitely not very flat.

There will be some nibble around and spin can be used successfully as well. Don't want to drop to short there though with the slow tennis ball bounce.

Ah okay. Haven't been following the first class circuit that closely and they haven't played a test there for what feels like centuries. What I do know is that the ODI I did watch there turned out to be (what was then) a record chase.

[TT Boy]

Originally Posted by Garson007

Ah okay. Haven't been following the first class circuit that closely and they haven't played a test there for what feels like centuries. What I do know is that the ODI I did watch there turned out to be (what was then) a record chase.

South Africa historically don't like playing tests there. It seams around a wee bit too much for their batsman.

[SeamUp]

Originally Posted by TT Boy

South Africa historically don't like playing tests there. It seams around a wee bit too much for their batsman.

And Wanderers, Centurion and Newlands (early on ?) don't get sideways movement ?

Think its more the lack of pace and tennis ball bounce that has been a concern at times. Almost like the new Durban pitch is now. Want the old Durban back !

[Garson007]

Originally Posted by TT Boy

South Africa historically don't like playing tests there. It seams around a wee bit too much for their batsman.

Can't be worse than Kingsmead, can it?