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    Noticed that Peterson and Amla have been ruled out of the last match and Phangiso will get a run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    Think the player SA miss a lot in this format is Duminy because he knows how to pace an innings.Undoubtedly both teams were a bit depleted, perhaps SA more so it does make McCullum's comments about the phenomenal win, one of the greatest ever a bit disingenuous. His comments were made on the basis that NZ was ranked 9th and SA 1st. Obviously SA aren't ranked the top but he omits to mention that the batsmen who basically earned SA that rating were all missing. In reality SA blows hot and cold in this format and it's not a major surprise they lost a couple of matches, though were highly competitive in both. Furthermore NZ has always been more competitive in limited overs matches when their test team is struggling just as Sri Lanka on the basis of their test performances might have expected a thrashing but have more than held their own and could possibly win the series.
    You forget that were ranked #9 with a very similar team for a reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    Yeah, point still stands. It's a match between two weakened teams - hardly the sort of match you'd classify as one of the greatest ever.
    McCullum's talking more about the series win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    McCullum's talking more about the series win.
    And from his own point of view, having been in the Black Caps for however long. Just because they're both weakened sides doesn't mean it can't rate as a great match for one individual involved. Context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    SA more so it does make McCullum's comments about the phenomenal win, one of the greatest ever a bit disingenuous.
    Perhaps - I would think a world cup quarterfinal win would be more important to us in our memories than this victory. However take it for what it is - his young charges were humiliated in the tests and he is trying to build some confidence with his comments.

    His comments are probably the tonic that is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    Think the player SA miss a lot in this format is Duminy because he knows how to pace an innings.Undoubtedly both teams were a bit depleted, perhaps SA more so it does make McCullum's comments about the phenomenal win, one of the greatest ever a bit disingenuous. His comments were made on the basis that NZ was ranked 9th and SA 1st. Obviously SA aren't ranked the top but he omits to mention that the batsmen who basically earned SA that rating were all missing. In reality SA blows hot and cold in this format and it's not a major surprise they lost a couple of matches, though were highly competitive in both. Furthermore NZ has always been more competitive in limited overs matches when their test team is struggling just as Sri Lanka on the basis of their test performances might have expected a thrashing but have more than held their own and could possibly win the series.
    All true, but I think we can forgive him being pretty excited about it. Given the controversy surrounding the captaincy change (in which he's come in for major criticism), leading to Taylor pulling out of the tour, the test thrashings, the awkward situation of Bond's letter criticising Hesson being leaked, I think many expected NZ to become a rabble who would get smashed regardless of who SA put out. To then get its first series win in SA ever, after all that's been going on, is a major upset. And as McCullum notes there were some exceptional things about the performance, with Williamson's batting and the fielding being terrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M0rphin3 View Post
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    SA commies are absolute worst, @0:58 - "came off thickish outside edge"? Dafuq?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    Undoubtedly both teams were a bit depleted, perhaps SA more so it does make McCullum's comments about the phenomenal win, one of the greatest ever a bit disingenuous. His comments were made on the basis that NZ was ranked 9th and SA 1st. Obviously SA aren't ranked the top but he omits to mention that the batsmen who basically earned SA that rating were all missing.
    Nah it's unfortunate you interpreted it that way. All he said was 'the top team', he didn't specify one form, two forms, three forms.
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    Wasn't SA ranked #1 in ODIs prior to this series?

    They've dropped 10 points since losing to us twice.
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    Still annoyed at when we dropped like 20 points after losing to Bangers.

    God that series sucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Wasn't SA ranked #1 in ODIs prior to this series?

    They've dropped 10 points since losing to us twice.
    Nope, was England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Nope, was England.
    I thought England may have dropped a game against India before NZ beat SA when they were both on 121.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    I thought England may have dropped a game against India before NZ beat SA when they were both on 121.
    Not very sure whether India got ahead of England in the 2nd or 3rd ODI tbh. But SA wasn't #1 regardless.

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    SA losing on the same day as England would have seen them drop below both India and England immediately.

    We were ranked 9th, they'd have lost a half dozen points straight away.



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