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Flem274* · 21-01-2013, 09:27 PM

I'm hanging out for your reaction when he opens in the tests against England.

Zinzan · 21-01-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flem274*

I'm hanging out for your reaction when he opens in the tests against England.

The worst thing is I wouldn't put it past them

hendrix · 22-01-2013, 05:02 AM

I don't want a scrappy ODI win.

I want to see someone score an ODI century. That glorious innings of controlled aggression, mixed in with some middle-over accumulation, and a slog at the end.

I want to see someone actually take control of the match and set a good score or time a chase perfectly.

Unfortunately the only people who are capable of this are on SA's side.

Quaggas · 22-01-2013, 05:06 AM

What's this? You guys send someone with a baseball bat to visit Amla'?

hendrix · 22-01-2013, 05:12 AM

My thoughts on the NZ lineup:

Stacking the side with allrounders like that to conceal our lack of batting is probably a strategically good move in that it gives us a better chance of setting a decent score, but it's kinda negative and counterproductive in the long run.

I would like to see Neesham have to bowl at least 5 overs. I don't want him to have the cushion of also having Elliot and Franklin and Munro and Williamson as options.

That strategy of "give him an over and see how he goes" is not going to set him up as a proper all rounder in the future.

Can you imagine England in Flintoff's years saying "yeah, we'll see how his first over goes before we trust him with a proper role in the side"?

That's the other thing. It dilutes responsibility.

Zinzan · 22-01-2013, 05:23 AM

So SA win the toss and bowl. Did McCullum indicate what he would have done?

Briony · 22-01-2013, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zinzan

So SA win the toss and bowl. Did McCullum indicate what he would have done?

Usually better not to bat under lights.

With Amla injured in the warm-ups this is one of the weakest SA ODI line-ups for some time. Kiwis should be favourites here with a more settled team.

Athlai · 22-01-2013, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Briony

Usually better not to bat under lights.

With Amla injured in the warm-ups this is one of the weakest SA ODI line-ups for some time. Kiwis should be favourites here with a more settled team.

Que?

kingkallis · 22-01-2013, 05:39 AM

Why the hell they didnt do 'this' in test matches?

they = kiwis
this = leave everything outside off stump

kingkallis · 22-01-2013, 05:41 AM

Oh Guptill!

Zinzan · 22-01-2013, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Briony

Kiwis should be favourites here with a more settled team.

Agree, not sure why SA even turned up.

Athlai · 22-01-2013, 05:44 AM

3 maidens to start an ODI. Oh boy.

Zinzan · 22-01-2013, 05:46 AM

Well bowled, but extremely poorly played for a top order batsman. Not sure what was worse, the shot selection or the technique of Guptill's there.

Zinzan · 22-01-2013, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Athlai

3 maidens to start an ODI. Oh boy.

And within seconds we're suddenly racing along at 6/1 .....

Spiced · 22-01-2013, 05:48 AM

Two reasons to bat second. Due factor at night makes it more difficult for bowlers and fielders and it is easier to bat second if you look at past games.

McCullem would have bowled first too.

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hendrix State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,252	I don't want a scrappy ODI win. I want to see someone score an ODI century. That glorious innings of controlled aggression, mixed in with some middle-over accumulation, and a slog at the end. I want to see someone actually take control of the match and set a good score or time a chase perfectly. Unfortunately the only people who are capable of this are on SA's side.

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Quaggas International 12th Man Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,531	What's this? You guys send someone with a baseball bat to visit Amla'?

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hendrix State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,252	My thoughts on the NZ lineup: Stacking the side with allrounders like that to conceal our lack of batting is probably a strategically good move in that it gives us a better chance of setting a decent score, but it's kinda negative and counterproductive in the long run. I would like to see Neesham have to bowl at least 5 overs. I don't want him to have the cushion of also having Elliot and Franklin and Munro and Williamson as options. That strategy of "give him an over and see how he goes" is not going to set him up as a proper all rounder in the future. Can you imagine England in Flintoff's years saying "yeah, we'll see how his first over goes before we trust him with a proper role in the side"? That's the other thing. It dilutes responsibility.

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Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,731	So SA win the toss and bowl. Did McCullum indicate what he would have done?

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Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,731	Well bowled, but extremely poorly played for a top order batsman. Not sure what was worse, the shot selection or the technique of Guptill's there.

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