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    We didn't even see what happened, probably not done forcefully or with malice. Players barge into each other when running between wickets (often intentionally), have heated exchanges, dissent shown at the umpire. A light push seems small compared to all that. Just making a mountain out of a molehill here. Hoping to see Quinny in the side for all the ODIs.

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    Yeah, I hope he's able to play. Only commented to make a pun with his name.
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    lol yeah, that's gonna blight him his whole career.

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    There is no way they can have AB keep wickets in the ODIs if his back is that bad. Bring in Dane Vilas for de Kock as a straight swap if he's banned; don't put the stress back on ABdV.


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    So what's the NZ ODI team going to look like?
    Something like this? ......

    MJ Guptill
    BJ Watling
    BB McCullum
    KS Williamson
    GD Elliott/JEC Franklin
    C Munro
    JDS Neesham
    NL McCullum
    KD Mills
    N Wagner/MJ McClenaghan
    TA Boult

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    Yeah would be about that, I'd go Franko over Elliott and Mitch over Wagner. And I bet you Nathan McCullum will bat in front of Neesham, because he is Nathan McCullum..

    Shame about Anderson and Milne being injured, would have got a game or 2.

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    If Watling is going to keep in tests he may as well keep in ODIs too so that he has all the match practice he can get.

    The good thing about this is that if either one of McCullum and Watling score big batting first than the other can take the gloves.

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    Whose idea was it to let Wagner play white ball cricket?

    He's awful at limited overs.

    I'd put Watling lower down and have McCullum open with Williamson at 3 then Watling 4 out of neccessity. We've got three number sixes in that team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Whose idea was it to let Wagner play white ball cricket?

    He's awful at limited overs.

    I'd put Watling lower down and have McCullum open with Williamson at 3 then Watling 4 out of neccessity. We've got three number sixes in that team.
    I'm kind of keen to see Watling have a go opening in the ODIs, even though they're ODIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Whose idea was it to let Wagner play white ball cricket?

    He's awful at limited overs.
    Problem the same person who thought it'd be a good idea to give Munro a run in the test side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I'm kind of keen to see Watling have a go opening in the ODIs, even though they're ODIs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    I'd put Watling lower down and have McCullum open with Williamson at 3 then Watling 4 out of neccessity. We've got three number sixes in that team.
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    So what's the NZ ODI team going to look like?
    Something like this? ......

    MJ Guptill
    BJ Watling
    BB McCullum
    KS Williamson
    GD Elliott/JEC Franklin
    C Munro
    JDS Neesham
    NL McCullum
    KD Mills
    N Wagner/MJ McClenaghan
    TA Boult
    As much as everyone loves to hate him, Nicol hasn't been the worst ODI batsmen for us in recent times, and adds a spin bowling option. Also, we have a real shortage of specialist bats in this ODI team, so we actually kind of need him.

    I'd choose:
    1. R Nicol
    2. M Guptill
    3. B McCullum
    4. G Elliott
    5. K Williamson
    6. BJ Watling
    7. J Neesham
    8. N McCullum
    9. K Mills
    10. N Wagner/R Hira
    11. M McClenaghan

    Williamson's record in the top 4 isn't great while Elliott has a century at 4. Imagine that Williamson will end up batting 4 though, with Watling 5 and Elliott 6.

    Depending on how Elliott goes with the bat, could look at dropping one of the bowlers (Wagner/Hira probs) with Munro to slot in the middle order and Elliott moving down. Wouldn't give him his ODI in the 1st match, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    As much as everyone loves to hate him, Nicol hasn't been the worst ODI batsmen for us in recent times, and adds a spin bowling option. Also, we have a real shortage of specialist bats in this ODI team, so we actually kind of need him.
    Nah, I don't buy this.

    The bowlers can bowl anywhere but long hops down the leg side to him because he only has one shot.

    Generally gets to about 10 (40), despite the fact that he's been trying to slog every ball, then gets a few healthy edges away before skying one.

    Just puts too much pressure on the batsmen at the other end.

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    Also, I think Williamson should be in the top 3 because he doesn't have the ability that most of the other batsmen do to hit sixes at the end.

    For me, I'd go with:

    Guptill
    Ryder
    Williamson
    Taylor
    Watling
    McCullum (w, c)
    Neesham/Elliot
    N McCullum
    K Mills
    Boult
    McCleneghan

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    Yeah Nicol's been pretty poor but I'm somewhat reluctant to replace him unless someone actually deserves that spot. We should call this 'the Franklin/Munro conundrum'.

    tbf to Nicol he's done more for us in ODIs/T20s than Franklin has in tests since becoming a batsman

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    Yeah Nicol's been pretty poor but I'm somewhat reluctant to replace him unless someone actually deserves that spot. We should call this 'the Franklin/Munro conundrum'.

    tbf to Nicol he's done more for us in ODIs/T20s than Franklin has in tests since becoming a batsman
    tbf Nicol's done more in ODIs with bat and ball than Franklin since he's been in the side.



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