**Official** New Zealand in South Africa

[Howsie]

Whatever happened to Guptill's pull shot? He hit it so well but because he got out to it a few times early in his career he binned it, such a shame imo, loved watching him bang that out.

[Bahnz]

Guppy needs a 100 to deserve retention. A scrappy 50 isn't enough at this point.

[Bahnz]

Whatever happened to Guptill's pull shot? He hit it so well but because he got out to it a few times early in his career he binned it, such a shame imo, loved watching him bang that out.

Nah don't reckon his pull shot was that good. Tended to duck his head down at the point of contact, and always hit it up, rather than rolling his wrists on it. Definitely something intl attacks can exploit easily, so he was right to put it away.

[Athlai]

SA commentators:

"Every NZ batsman should bat 4-7"

"Besides Watling"

Would be a gun team

Watling
Watling
Watling
Brownlie
Williamson
McCullum
Guptill

[wellAlbidarned]

Nah don't reckon his pull shot was that good. Tended to duck his head down at the point of contact, and always hit it up, rather than rolling his wrists on it. Definitely something intl attacks can exploit easily, so he was right to put it away.

Yeah it was strictly a limited overs shot. To use it in tests against quality quicks takes something more because you actually have to think for a fraction of a second before you play it which none of our batsmen are really good enough to do. In ODIs and T20s it's just a reflex action.

[NZTailender]

Weeell nothing down at lunch, time for bed.

[Howsie]

Nah don't reckon his pull shot was that good. Tended to duck his head down at the point of contact, and always hit it up, rather than rolling his wrists on it. Definitely something intl attacks can exploit easily, so he was right to put it away.

So you improve upon it, not bin it. That's just such a New Zealand thing to do.

[wellAlbidarned]

Yeah Richardson was such a crap opener for binning all the shots he wasn't good at, terrible idea. Steve Waugh should've manned up too, what kind of whimp decides to duck short balls.

[uvelocity]

You can't actually do that. You can't bat twice in a row. There has to be at least be a 15 minute break before a batsman can start their second innings if they were not out in the first and they followed on. A situation like this occurred about 5 years ago.

lol bull****. i've done it in a club game years ago. we got rolled, i top scored from 11 and the skipper told me to head back out there, duly got a duck second dig

[ohnoitsyou]

Yeah Richardson was such a crap opener for binning all the shots he wasn't good at, terrible idea. Steve Waugh should've manned up too, what kind of whimp decides to duck short balls.

and you wonder why so many batsmen favour the hoick across the line

[Bahnz]

So you improve upon it, not bin it. That's just such a New Zealand thing to do.

Not saying you bin it permanently. But you focus on not playing it while out of form, focus on improving your technique in the nets and FC cricket, and in the interim look to make runs through safer shots. Unfortunately, Guptill doesn't have any other shots to rely on at the moment.

[BoyBrumby]

Wow. Jeremy Coney ripping into Hesson on the UK Sky coverage.

Basically called him a lightweight and a liar.

[Prince EWS]

SA commentators:

"Every NZ batsman should bat 4-7"

"Besides Watling"

Would be a gun team

Watling
Watling
Watling
Brownlie
Williamson
McCullum
Guptill

[Howsie]

Not saying you bin it permanently. But you focus on not playing it while out of form, focus on improving your technique in the nets and FC cricket, and in the interim look to make runs through safer shots. Unfortunately, Guptill doesn't have any other shots to rely on at the moment.

Yep, which is why I brought it up. You take away certain shots and you end up being a pretty limited batsmen, which is fine if you're a Richardson or Waugh, not so much if your Guptill.

[wellAlbidarned]

If you're an international test opener, the pull should be the last shot you look to rely on. Cut the wide ****, drive the full **** once the shine's gone, flick to leg if they slip too straight. [/it'ssoeasysittingathome]