**Official** New Zealand in South Africa

[BoyBrumby]

Seen a lot more of Miller, but yeah, looks diffwent gwavy.

Ingram the archetypal fat slogger.

 

[Cabinet96]

I'd have rather had de Kock at 3 and Miller at 6.

 

[MrPrez]

But Ingram doesn't have anything dynamic about him. Doesn't look classy. Miller looks talented and explosive.

Ingram just bats at 3 and plays a different role to Miller.

Stats:

Ingram: 35 in ODIs, 41 in OD.

Miller: 29 in ODIs, 32 in OD.

I do want to see miller in the lower order if there's a spot, but Ingram gets first choice in the ODI team imo. T20s Miller should be a shoo-in.

 

[Briony]

Ingram just bats at 3 and plays a different role to Miller.

Stats:

Ingram: 35 in ODIs, 41 in OD.

Miller: 29 in ODIs, 32 in OD.

I do want to see miller in the lower order if there's a spot, but Ingram gets first choice in the ODI team imo. T20s Miller should be a shoo-in.

But from memory Miller had to come in and hit from ball one whereas Ingram was given licence to bat that sheet anchor role and just get singles at will. Tougher to have to bail teams out like they often expected Albie Morkel to do.

 

[Prince EWS]

Tbf, an ODI average of 35 is hardly "not international class."

Except he averages 65 against Zimbabwe+Ireland and 25 against everyone else.

 

[MrPrez]

Except he averages 65 against Zimbabwe+Ireland and 25 against everyone else.

Dang it. Why do you always have to spot that stuff

But still, I just back Ingram as the complete player. The guy is class. Reckon Miller will be huge in the future but for now I reckon Ingram is the better all-round batsman even if he isn't as dynamic.

But as I say I'd love to find a way to squeeze Miller in there too.

 

[Jono]

Come on Kiwis you ****ing pricks. Do this!

 

[kingkallis]

I have this feeling that Kiwis will win this...

 

[Briony]

Come on Kiwis you ****ing pricks. Do this!

Still very gettable, especially Peterson having overs up his sleeve on this ground. SA didn't use their overs with big Rory picking out a fielder beautifully. They probably could have got 220 had they batted out their overs.

 

[Garson007]

Tbf, an ODI average of 35 is hardly "not international class." I still back Ingram.

Lots of guys that should be ahead of him.

Davids can come in for Smith.

 

[Briony]

Lots of guys that should be ahead of him.

Davids can come in for Smith.

Davids looks a T20 type and is nearly 30. Surely they have some younger guys. What about Rilee Rous.?

 

[Jono]

I'd have give that not out too ftr. Definitely hit turf

 

[Briony]

Debutant Rory helping kiwi cause with three wides in the over. Nerves getting to him!

 

[Jono]

That one's out though

 

[MrPrez]

Wouldn't put Davids in ahead of Smith.

Rossouw isn't an OD opener is he?

 

[Briony]

Wouldn't put Davids in ahead of Smith.

Rossouw isn't an OD opener is he?

No but wonder if he is in the mix somewhere.

 

[MrPrez]

No but wonder if he is in the mix somewhere.

I've basically assumed that Rossouw is next in line (after Elgar) for tests.

 

[Zinzan]

Don't anyone be fooled by Nicol's overall record. He's a classic minnow-basher. Averages 67 with a SR of 91 against Zim, 25 striking @ 82 against the Windies, 21 @ 56 against SL & a diabolical average of 14 and a SR of 47 against SA,

 

[Jono]

Last wkt partnership looks like it could be the difference.

 

[kykweer.proteas]

So many extras from the south african bowlers, 13 wides is ridiculous, this is a horrible match (if franklin doesn't pull it from the fire).

South africa and nz are the two teams that heavily rely on doing the basics well, south africa only ahead because nz were worse