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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    He seems to be pretty good at batting IIRC.
    Really just strokes it. Creams them through the covers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    agree 100% with this.

    When bowling is the strength of both sides (not that SA bat poorly), bowling first should be the default unless the wicket is really flat.

    That's advice the coach should be giving, IMO.

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    Tbh unless you're an absolute demon with your offstump judgement the only other way I've seen Philander put under pressure is to smash him out of the attack. We definitely need to get him off his line and length because it's simply too good.

    If we get out trying to hit him though there will be hell to pay from the media, but provided the ball isn't seaming everywhere attacking him is an option. Mark Gillespie and Trent Boult must have annoyed him a lot in the series down here with their cameo slogging.
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    agree with phlegm. His thoroughly mortal (mediocre, in fact) One Day record is solid evidence for that theory.


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    Sounds increasingly likely that Philander will be rested in PE.

    SA compared with Oz greats | Sport24

    McCullum endorses the current SA attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    Even by his lofty standards, that's abysmal.
    Yeah, saw it through Styris giving it (and him) a bake on twitter.

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    Missing the second test due to being in the wops. I hope it's not a good thing. Good luck kiwis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    agree with phlegm. His thoroughly mortal (mediocre, in fact) One Day record is solid evidence for that theory.
    Said it since day one, Vern looks a completely different player when batters are coming down the pitch, attacking him etc. He loses his composure and starts thinking he's Joel Garner, tries to hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by NasserFan207 View Post
    Said it since day one, Vern looks a completely different player when batters are coming down the pitch, attacking him etc. He loses his composure and starts thinking he's Joel Garner, tries to hard
    Well we saw it briefly with Dean Brownlie in the first test. He hit a boundary off Philander, and suddenly two more relatively bad balls came his way in the very same over.

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    How many batsmen are willing to risk the ****-storm which would come their way for trying to charge an opening bowler with an average of 17 in the first five overs of a test? yeah. It's not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    How many batsmen are willing to risk the ****-storm which would come their way for trying to charge an opening bowler with an average of 17 in the first five overs of a test? yeah. It's not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Briony View Post
    Sounds increasingly likely that Philander will be rested in PE.

    SA compared with Oz greats | Sport24

    McCullum endorses the current SA attack.
    True, or not, McCullum has to say that for several reasons. One of them being '45' and the another to pacify the restless natives back in NZ.

    "We were just up against the best bowling attack of all time. Nothing we could do. Honest. I'm a great captain. Mike's a great coach. Honest. It was their bowling attack, you see. The best of all time."
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    This article makes it sound like Wagner's "aggressive net performance" has moved him into contention for the playing XI...
    New Zealand in South Africa 2012-13 : Neil Wagner targets his own in bid for return | Cricket News | South Africa v New Zealand | ESPN Cricinfo

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    Haha, really. Did it look like this at all?
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