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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    The captaincy isn't something you just automatically give to the best batsman in the side; you give it to the best captain in the side who has a cemented place..
    Taylor would be the best captain in the side if he had the support of his senior players. It only becomes a big deal when there's a mutiny.

    I really don't think there's all that much to captaincy. Taylor said when he got the job that his role wouldn't be too complex; he'd simply bring on the bowlers that were bowling well, set aggressive but conventional fielders, and trust everyone to do their job. We have good enough bowlers that we don't need to muck around with unconventional field sets. Lo and behold, when players actually do their job we get a win...

    Would a man with "tactical nous" do things much different?
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    I knew someone would quote that out of context and make it look like I was advocating McCullum. FMD. I just objected to Phlegm's weird rants. I'd sooner make Franklin captain than McCullum.
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    A true leader will support someone else and not undermine them

    in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I knew someone would quote that out of context and make it look like I was advocating McCullum. FMD. I just objected to Phlegm's weird rants. I'd sooner make Franklin captain than McCullum.
    Sorry yeah I know what you were saying, I was just using it as a springboard for my comments.

    Not disagreeing with you at all.


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    I think I will support England over the Black Caps come the home Test series if this pans out as expected. I can't support a team lead by men who indulge in Night of the Long Knives tactics to further their own machinations.

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    Whatever you want to say about Ross, especially tactically, he's stood up to be counted since receiving the (c). He'd feel the knives hovering towards his back but has churned out a multitude of runs - and certainly more than the guy they're lining up to take him over. He deserves a lot of respect for boosting his averages in all arenas with the captaincy.

    I don't think the issue here is who will be captain or who is the best captain. It's the churlish, boys club, cliquey, unprofessional approach that has been symptomatic since Justin Vaughan's reign. And it is accurately summed up in the fact we are eighth and last in all three forms of the game.

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    Make Jessie teh captain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    I don't think the issue here is who will be captain or who is the best captain. It's the churlish, boys club, cliquey, unprofessional approach that has been symptomatic since Justin Vaughan's reign. And it is accurately summed up in the fact we are eighth and last in all three forms of the game.
    I agree with all that except this sort of churlish boys club nonsense has been going on for years, not just since the Vaughan reign. Coney/Hadlee, Crowe/Rutherford and countless other examples of in fighting in the NZ cricket team.

    It's just one long embarrassment.

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    Certainly it's been there in the past, but under Chris Doig's leadership it wasn't an issue. Good strong leadership from him, Steve Rixon, Stephen Fleming etc made for an environment that housed plenty of egos but allowed them to shine.

    I don't think we can expect a lot of change under the management structure we have now and the sort of in-fighting and cliques developing in the side now.

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    This whole situation is disgusting. No, unprofessional is the best word, grossly unprofessional.

    I can't even summon up the will to hold my nose at the stench emanating from this and write a good rant. It seems that, like the last 5 years, the output of this team will not be measure in wins and draws, runs and wickets, but instead in best-selling tell-all books a few years later.

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    I'm convinced this is all a load of BS and nothing will really come of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by NasserFan207 View Post
    I'm convinced this is all a load of BS and nothing will really come of it
    I really hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NasserFan207 View Post
    I'm convinced this is all a load of BS and nothing will really come of it
    Well it this media speculation was a 'testing of the waters' from NZ cricket to see how the NZ public would react, they certainly know now.

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    I'm hoping that this is just media speculation, but Hesson hasn't done anything to quiet the rumours since he took over, has he?

    Just really poor man management from Hesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    Well it this media speculation was a 'testing of the waters' from NZ cricket to see how the NZ public would react, they certainly know now.
    David White currently reading CW under an alter ego, you reckon?

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