Ross Taylor likely to be shafted from the captaincy?

[Hurricane]

When the decision happens James to publish the first 20 reactions in his book.

[Flem274*]

What flummoxes me is people are actually saying right now they backed McCullum as captain when Vettori's successor was first decided, and even now Taylor's captaincy is fit for debate.

FMD I'm becoming more and more convinced people who ring radio stations have The Stupid Gene because this media perception of Taylor as a slogger who only scores easy runs is not true at all and in fact applies quite nicely to a certain other member of the side. Holy ****, the other day Martin Guptill was floated as a captaincy candidate. Let the bloke establish himself first ffs.

Here's that list I promised you all of Taylor's 80+ scores (I cbf listing all the damn fifties)

120 coming in at 3/129
154 coming in at 2/86
151 coming in at 2/22
107 coming in at 2/54
81 coming in at 2/49
94 coming in at 2/27
97 coming in at 2/36
138 coming in at 2/30
122 coming in at 2/131 (against Zimbabwe)
113 coming in at 2/63
142 coming in at 2/14

Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

One thing I noticed writing that was once he gets past the 50s his conversion rate becomes pretty damn good as well. Other notables:

-Averages 63 in the first innings of the match, and 52 in the final innings of the match.
-1047 @ 49.85 as captain
-819 @ 54.60 in 2012
-1752 @ 54.12 at home
-Bangladesh, West Indies and South Africa are the only sides he has failed against and drag his average down massively

GAGF McCullum

[hendrix]

Anyone who doesn't think Taylor is the best batsman in the side hasn't been watching the black caps.

He had a dip in form about a year ago, possibly because he kept listening to the everyone else telling him how to bat.

There are 3 quibbles you could have with him right now:
1. His catching has been poor.
2. At times his field settings have been a bit defensive.
3. The selection and batting order in t20s and ODIs has been weird.

I blame van Wyk for 1, but anyway it's something that can be worked on and is no reason to oust him. At worst move him out of first slip.

2, well, he's learning the captaincy and really those things are kinda subjective.

3, this is an important quibble but from what it sounds like, Hesson has been the one responsible for the tinkering.

[flibbertyjibber]

Joke decision. Just when they seemed to make some progress they go and do something stupid like this. Can see NZ getting a stuffing off SA and not being able to regroup in time for the England double header. One thing though, if it is McCullum as captain he may be out of a job by June if they suffer 3 heavy series defeats in a row.

[Days of Grace]

Rumor is that McCullum is threatening to quit NZ cricket for the IPL and other T20 leagues unless his demands are met.

[Spikey]

that's just a really good joke right

[hendrix]

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

Rumor is that McCullum is threatening to quit NZ cricket for the IPL and other T20 leagues unless his demands are met.

lol really?

[Immenso]

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

Rumor is that McCullum is threatening to quit NZ cricket for the IPL and other T20 leagues unless his demands are met.

Tbh, that sounds like a pretty silly rumour

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

Rumor is that McCullum is threatening to quit NZ cricket for the IPL and other T20 leagues unless his demands are met.

That just makes the decision even easier. He can sod off and never darken our shores again.

We laugh at our tried and failed openers, and even Guptill, but hell I'll never say those guys wouldn't piss blood for the team. Guptill turns down big money from the IPL to work on his test game in County Cricket, and Rob Nicol despite looking well below standard strove manfully to tough it out against Steyn and co. last summer, taking numerous blows on the body. Tim McIntosh is another who was barely of the requisite class but **** did he dig in.

McCullum just throws it away time and time again then has a tantrum when he doesn't get his own way.

I want names. I want to know who is in each camp. Frankly I'd be shocked if the bowlers back McCullum since Taylor is the only reason they ever get a total above 200 to defend most of the time, and Williamson and Flynn present very different attitudes to the game to McCullum. Frankly there aren't too many guys around who can say they're a class above the other options, even if that class isn't a very high one.

edit: and can someone please take a census of radiosport callers so we can deport them? Every time someone calls in backing the bottomless bucket I kill a puppy.

[Days of Grace]

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

Really feel for Taylor.

[Immenso]

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

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Hmmmm, yeah I would be.
But I wouldn't be surprised if some lunatic has rung a radio station with a crackpot rumour or theory ......

[SilentOne]

Originally Posted by Days of Grace

Rumor is that McCullum is threatening to quit NZ cricket for the IPL and other T20 leagues unless his demands are met.

If any of that happens to be true NZC really are retarded. Let him **** off and become a mercenary we don't need that turd.

[Prince EWS]

Phlegm's posts in this thread are so weird.

[Flem274*]

It's because I'm fuming. Haven't been this pissed off about cricket in a long time.

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

It's because I'm fuming. Haven't been this pissed off about cricket in a long time.

Yeah but you're fuming for a really weird reason.

If this is true I think it's a ridiculous decision too. But it's ridiculous because Taylor's captaincy has been decent and parts of the team are really improving under his reign. The timing in particular of this decision (if true etc) is what really makes no sense.

The content of your rants seems to be focused on the fact that you think Taylor is a better batsman than McCullum. Well no ****. I'm sure Hesson and whoever else is responsible for selecting the national captain realise that too, so you're basically just making a straw man. The captaincy isn't something you just automatically give to the best batsman in the side; you give it to the best captain in the side who has a cemented place. I think Taylor is a better captain than McCullum would be too but the fact that he scores more runs than him means two fifths of **** all here.