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    Hmmm, it'll be interesting to see whether this is just for the limited overs captaincy (which I couldn't give a toss about) or the test captaincy.

    If it is the test captaincy as well, then...meh. On the one hand, I think Taylor is an average test match captain. On the other, it appears to have brought the best out of his batting, and he's only had one year in the job (during which period we've nicked as many test victories as we managed under Vettori's 4 year tenure).

    And yeah, the constant chopping and changing of both coaches and captains is not good for team stability, especially when they appear to be finally starting to find their feet. I wonder who's driving this. Obviously McCunliffe has been keen for a coup for some time now, and Hesson is supposed to be his biggest cheerleader. But I wonder whether the NZC Board has also had a signficant say in this? They've been getting hammered in the media over the last couple of weeks, and maybe they were desperate to make a change, just so that they could be seen to be doing something.
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    Taylor should refuse to tour South Africa if true. Dead serious. Lets see how glory boy McCullum goes without the best batsman since he's so ****ing crash hot.

    McCullum is the most overrated player in the history of New Zealand cricket. Some chump on the radio the other day described him as having a mental edge Taylor lacks. Unless he refers to a well practised top edge to the outfield catcher, I'm at a loss to decipher what he was talking about. McCullum combines the batting stupidity of McMillan with the run production of Martin Guptill. He's deadset the second most vulnerable batsman performance wise in the side. I hope Steyn kills him.

    I honestly cbf supporting this side over Central Districts anymore if this is true. We have the bowlers and one of the few test standard batsmen in the country. Give us test status!

    Seriously, you couldn't make this incompetence up. I have a lot of time for Hesson but if he is involved he can shove it up his arse. If I were David White I'd send McCullum out to sea and every player who supported his cause would be dropped. IDGAF if it was one of our favourite quicks either, we have plenty of them. If it's a batsman, well unless they're Taylor or Williamson then we have ten other batsmen as good so once again, who cares.

    Not much motivates me to trawl through cricinfo statswizard thing but deadset I'm about to dig every single under pressure innings Taylor has played then compare that to McCullum's recent performance.

    Nothing less than 2-0 victory over South Africa will make me support McCullum, and that won't be happening. Why does Taylor even bother? He should come win the Plunket Shield with CD.
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    I reckon Taylor is way too much of a team man to ever do something like walk out of the side over this. However, if the tables were turned and McCullum was dropped from the captaincy in similar circumstances, I could totally see him walking out of the test side. Says all you need to know imo.


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    this all ends with dan being captain again
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    McCullum's batting record since 1st January 2011

    Taylor's batting record since 1st January 2011

    I see a 17 run difference over 15 tests in Taylor's favour there.

    Make McCullum captain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    this all ends with dan being captain again
    Nah, Williamson's been in the team for ages, it's totally his turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    this all ends with dan being captain again
    Great, a batsman who thinks he's a bowler and now can't even do either.

    Or maybe they'll give it to Williamson, because what we really need to do is make a youngster who isn't even consistent with the bat or fully established at number three captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    McCullum's batting record since 1st January 2011

    Taylor's batting record since 1st January 2011

    I see a 17 run difference over 15 tests in Taylor's favour there.

    Make McCullum captain
    I mean I haven't be paying that close attention, but to me it seemed like McCullum was barely doing enough to remain in the team (and these stats confirm that), so surely you'd think they would make him the keeper again before the captain but no stupid nz strikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Ross Taylor should tell them to go and stuff it right where the sun don't shine, what an unbelievable ****ing farce. McCullum has to be one of the biggest parasites going around, as well as his cronies. If what they're saying is true, that Taylor felt he was being undermined by certain senior players then they should never play for New Zealand again. Hell afaic it's no different to fixing.

    Arghh.
    AWTA. This has been on the cards since Hesson took over. There was an article in the Dumonion Post about 6-8 weeks ago on the subject. Farcical is the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    I mean I haven't be paying that close attention, but to me it seemed like McCullum was barely doing enough to remain in the team (and these stats confirm that), so surely you'd think they would make him the keeper again before the captain but no stupid nz strikes
    Mccullum can't keep in tests anymore due to back injuries.

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    I don't think McCullum is a bad team man and I don't think he's a bad player either. Does anyone seriously think he had a role to play in this? Was Taylor really being undermined?

    Also, what idiots attribute batting collapses to the captain?

    Since I've seen nothing in the newspapers yet I'm hoping this is just a rumour. Otherwise I think I've really had enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Does anyone seriously think he had a role to play in this?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Since I've seen nothing in the newspapers yet I'm hoping this is just a rumour. Otherwise I think I've really had enough.
    Last rumour I remember was the andy moles rumour.

    Anyway lets hope common sense prevails. Hesson can't do this by himself.
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