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    Neither would Starc though, so I don't really get this "He's going to have a much harder time because australia's fast bowling stocks are better" argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    It's great that Boult has the accuracy and temperament of a bowler 5 years his senior, but it does make you wonder about how much more he's likely to improve. Starc on the other hand has all the tools to one day be a world-beater, and he looks like he's well on his way to getting there.
    Why exactly would he need to improve? Genuine question too. He's played half his matches in the SC, has 26 wickets @ 29 so far and has been laughably unlucky for the most part.
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    boy Bahnz really is a sour puss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Why exactly would he need to improve? Genuine question too. He's played half his matches in the SC, has 26 wickets @ 29 so far and has been laughably unlucky for the most part.
    After seeing Starc's spell yesterday, I think he has the all the tools to be a real great for Australia over the next decade. The sky is the limit for him.

    Boult doesn't need to improve at all in order to have a long and successful test career. If he keeps bowling like he has in the past 6 months (and isn't stricken with injury), I reckon it's likely that he'll take 300+ wickets at under 30. But I do think he'll need to improve (and significantly) if he's to keep pace with Starc over the next few years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
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    Starc has wonderful assets and a high celing and everything but he's in the basement of the house that is his potential atm. For every spell like yesterday there are five spells of MJ esque filth, especially if I happen to be watching for some reason. If you can't put the ball in the right areas often enough, you are going to forever suck even if you bowl 145kph.

    Boult is going to return to NZ and look like a God in conditions that will actually suit him swinging it in to the right hander at 140kph, but with the way we manage our fast bowlers there's probably a 50/50 chance he's permainjured by the time he's 27. Or maybe he'll take a break from cricket after getting infuriated by some **** in NZC.

    What I'm saying is these guys have a lot of water to go under their bridges.

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    Wheeler and Milne have bossed every game they've played but much like Boult three or so years ago, they only play half the damn FC games each season.
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    Boult won't get injured.

    Know how I know? Because he's fit.

    Unlike almost every other bowler out there.

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    He's already had the back injuries. Once you start, they're always there to follow you around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    He's already had the back injuries. Once you start, they're always there to follow you around.
    Not necessarily. Once Bond fixed his action in 2005 he never suffered another serious back injury in the last 5 years of his career. Too bad that his knees turned out to be just as fragile as his spine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Not necessarily. Once Bond fixed his action in 2005 he never suffered another serious back injury in the last 5 years of his career. Too bad that his knees turned out to be just as fragile as his spine.
    I just don't see Boult being as lethal after an action change, his frame is just to small to give much to work with. Luckily however Bond is probably the perfect coach to give Boult a chance of an injury free career without turning him into another mid 130kmh plodder.

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    Boult generally does bowl in the mid 130s anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    For every spell like yesterday there are five spells of MJ esque filth, especially if I happen to be watching for some reason. .
    Come on - Starc's average spells are nothing like MJ at his worst. Starc just looks utterly innocuous because he has a tendency to overpitch far too often, Johnson just bowled short and wide rubbish and looked laughably bad, which Starc never has imo.
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    Starc will be better because he's an Aussie. Boult will probably be good, but nothing special. average around 32 probably.

    Starc will be supported by quality quicks and will sit around a 27 average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    Starc will be better because he's an Aussie. Boult will probably be good, but nothing special. average around 32 probably.

    Starc will be supported by quality quicks and will sit around a 27 average.
    Well, you're welcome to your opinion but if anything I think the NZ quicks are better than the Aussie ones, at least on current form. If you compare both recent tests against the Sri Lankans the NZ quicks were more consistent and bowled SL out for less runs on even flatter wickets.

    A bowling attack of Siddle, Pattinson and Starc would look pretty awesome though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Boult generally does bowl in the mid 130s anyway.
    Yeah he does but I think he chooses when to ramp things up based on the sort of movement and is getting.

    I wonder if he can bowl consistently at 140 range. I couldn't care less if he bowls faster than that as long as he can consistently do 140 when he decides to.

    I think the guy could be a sub 30 bowler plus he looks like the guy from the Inbetweeners which is cool.

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