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Thread: Starc vs Boult - who will have the better career?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachnodouche View Post
    At least Boult looks like he's charging in to bowl as fast as his frame can let him. Starc seems to just float the ball up there. He doesn't seem to have the aggression of a Pattinson either.
    Well Pattinson doesn't have the aggressive bowling his body language suggests.

    He is much more accurate compared to Starc, but he just bowls the same stuff over and over again. He'll be awesome on pitches with movement, but on flat pitches he'll be made to look average just like Starc.

    Both Patto and Starc need a good bouncer and in general just more variety. Starc also needs more control but the advantage he has over Patto is he has a killer inswinger which he can exploit on occasions.

    Boult is the better bowler now but Starc has more potential if he could develop more skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TumTum View Post
    Well Pattinson doesn't have the aggressive bowling his body language suggests.
    What's your definition of aggressive bowling though? Just hitting people on the lid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    What's your definition of aggressive bowling though? Just hitting people on the lid?
    IMO for a big fast bowler: When they can trouble batsmen with either vicious bouncers, yorkers/v. full deliveries or rushing the batsmen with pace.

    Axe killer Patto only troubles batsmen with very good line/length balls atm, which is not a bad thing but I think he needs something more to become a really great bowler.

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    I have been watching him closely. His front side does not collapse but unlike other bowlers his top half of his body seems to fold over much sooner in his action. This means that he is not getting the full benefit of his height.

    My other observation and I would love to see some stats on this but his arms look really long. So although he loses some height by bending over too quickly his long arms means he is still delivering it from a great height.
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    Starc is far more like Southee than Boult. Just like Southee, Starc has all the physical attributes to be a top bowler so it becomes a question of mastering the mental side of bowling, plus experience.

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    Having watched Starc today, I'm changing my vote. He's bigger and quicker than Boult, and he swings it both ways. Huge talent.
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    Lands it on the pitch once in a blue moon though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Lands it on the pitch once in a blue moon though.
    Nah, he's been hitting the right areas with great consistency today. He's still inconsistent, but he'll iron out the wrinkles with time. Also thought he bowled well for poor reward in the first innings (although that's one area where I think Boult still has the edge over him).

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    Yeah I don't disagree that when he gets it right he is jizzworthy, but along with some of the most promising spells I've seen from an Aussie quick he's bowled some of the most hilariously bad spells I've seen from any quick his age.

    It's not just his accuracy he struggles with. He needs to get street smart. But he still has ages left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post

    It's not just his accuracy he struggles with. He needs to get street smart. But he still has ages left.
    Vomit. Methinks someone has been listening to far too much **** telecast commentary, Phlegm.

    Such an awful, awful phrase to apply to cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Vomit. Methinks someone has been listening to far too much **** telecast commentary, Phlegm.

    Such an awful, awful phrase to apply to cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Watched almost every ball of a series with Morrison and McMillan commentating in it. It's not my fault!
    It certainly explains it. Not many worse commentating cliches than using a phrase which in the context is an absolute vacuum of meaning of any sort whatsoever to fill a dead air gap. Street smarts and 'showing character' being the absolute worst of these phrases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    It certainly explains it. Not many worse commentating cliches than using a phrase which in the context is an absolute vacuum of meaning of any sort whatsoever to fill a dead air gap. Street smarts and 'showing character' being the absolute worst of these phrases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Yeah I don't disagree that when he gets it right he is jizzworthy, but along with some of the most promising spells I've seen from an Aussie quick he's bowled some of the most hilariously bad spells I've seen from any quick his age.
    It's great that Boult has the accuracy and temperament of a bowler 5 years his senior, but it does make you wonder about how much more he's likely to improve. Starc on the other hand has all the tools to one day be a world-beater, and he looks like he's well on his way to getting there.

    Still, we would've said the same thing about the other Mitch after the 09 tour of SA, and look how that turned out.

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    I think Boult's biggest obstacle is his back, and Starc's is what I said above. Been banging on about it all thread but it's a guessing game and this could go either way or even no ones way and Mitchell Johnson could be remembered more than either (even if for entertainment only).

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