***Official*** Sri Lanka in Australia 2012/2013

[Spikey]

john hastings is still yet to bowl after he hurt his back swinging the bat hard during the waca test btw. what a guy

[Redbacks]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

Wouldn't happen in the SANFL.

The only dalliance with sports science in the SANFL was the 1908 'Oxygen vs Beer' GF. Beer was the proud winner on that day.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by burr

YES. I am so angry over this resting rubbish. The Australian Baggy Green has to be earned. Really, we have completely lost our way. This is one of the darkest periods in Aus cricket history.

aus fan overreaction r go

[Spikey]

aus cricket has been in one big dark age ever since they started wearing helmets instead of the baggygreen while batting itbt

[morgieb]

Invers comments....

[uvelocity]

Originally Posted by Spikey

but seriously people complaining about the rotation system, what's your idea? are you like brett lee who goes on and on about 'cotton wool' but doesn't really offer any ideas about how to prevent injures aside how they train in the gym which he goes on and on about? or do you agree with dirk nannes in saying fast bowlers should just not bother until they're 24? it seems to me CA is attempting something akin to a sane solution but playing them when they're fit, and resting them when history tells them something bad could be about to happen. that to me is a lot better than not doing anything at all and saying "didn't see that coming!" when they get injured, or not letting them do anything at all.

I'm in the let bowlers bowl camp. I don't agree that the scientists can yet work out when someone will get injured ahead of time. I'd also be super interested to compare the workload of Jackson bird to start anyway. I'd reckon he's bowled a comparable number of overs in the last say 3 months or whatever

[Top_Cat]

Spikey and Bench**** have it knocked.

[aussie tragic]

Originally Posted by uvelocity

I'm in the let bowlers bowl camp. I don't agree that the scientists can yet work out when someone will get injured ahead of time. I'd also be super interested to compare the workload of Jackson bird to start anyway. I'd reckon he's bowled a comparable number of overs in the last say 3 months or whatever

First Class overs this summer:

Siddle - 272.2 (7 games)
Johnson - 190.4 (6 games)
Bird - 173.5 (6 games)
Starc - 137.4 (4 games)

Yep, Starc definetley needs a rest more than Siddle

[morgieb]

Didn't Siddle already get a rest?

[uvelocity]

Nice work mate. Who knows what reports and so forth they get. But don trus dem boffins me

[Spikey]

97 of Starc's overs come from the recent two tests ftr

Originally Posted by uvelocity

I'm in the let bowlers bowl camp. I don't agree that the scientists can yet work out when someone will get injured ahead of time. I'd also be super interested to compare the workload of Jackson bird to start anyway. I'd reckon he's bowled a comparable number of overs in the last say 3 months or whatever

as far as I can tell, they're not trying to prevent hamstrings and side-strains. that is impossible. they're mainly trying to prevent back and foot stress injures. It seems to me scientists are perfectly capable of saying "hey you've been bowling a lot lately. history says, and considering your age, you're approaching a stage when you're a chance of getting a stress injury. you can play, but we've warned you". and then ca is saying "well **** we don't want another bowler out for 6 months. we've got two ashes series in the next 12 months"

eg a whole lotta common sense is being used.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by aussie tragic

First Class overs this summer:

Siddle - 272.2 (7 games)
Johnson - 190.4 (6 games)
Bird - 173.5 (6 games)
Starc - 137.4 (4 games)

Yep, Starc definetley needs a rest more than Siddle

How many of those 137 overs has Starc bowled over his last two matches?


And how old is Starc compared to Siddle.

[benchmark00]

Edit: **** off spike****.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by uvelocity

I'm in the let bowlers bowl camp. I don't agree that the scientists can yet work out when someone will get injured ahead of time. I'd also be super interested to compare the workload of Jackson bird to start anyway. I'd reckon he's bowled a comparable number of overs in the last say 3 months or whatever

They called Patto's foot injury before the Sydney test last year. Team ignored it and bam, he's out for a month. Guess that's what they're trying to avoid here.

[uvelocity]

Originally Posted by Spikey

97 of Starc's overs come from the recent two tests ftr



as far as I can tell, they're not trying to prevent hamstrings and side-strains. that is impossible. they're mainly trying to prevent back and foot stress injures. It seems to me scientists are perfectly capable of saying "hey you've been bowling a lot lately. history says, and considering your age, you're approaching a stage when you're a chance of getting a stress injury. you can play, but we've warned you". and then ca is saying "well **** we don't want another bowler out for 6 months. we've got two ashes series in the next 12 months"

eg a whole lotta common sense is being used.

Nah **** that. If they are doing that they need to be taking into account force and loads on parts of the body ie nm through the foot on the popping crease. and measuring the strength of the body maybe by bone density or something. And there'd be different limits for each bowler. They decided they didn't want to break the two left armers rule and yeah they decided they didn't want another injury. But they went with the dartboard made of cotton wool method imo.