***Official*** Sri Lanka in Australia 2012/2013

[uvelocity]

Originally Posted by Spikey

when are we gonna start discussing which seamer to pick in the boxing day squad

#dougeh

I'll back em to pick ncn. be him, bird or cutting you'd say? and play johnson anyway

[flibbertyjibber]

That is an impressive stat but not surprising given the players you have had over the majority of those 20 years. I think allowances would be made given the amount of injuries to bowlers and the fact you did play the best side around in 3 of the games.

Must be something that needs looking at though the amount of injuries your bowlers keep picking up.

[andyc]

Originally Posted by quincywagstaff

And I think Wade's hold on the keeper's spot is fairly tenuous at present. It's not just that he missed another stumping, but the way he looks overall. He often seems to struggle to take throws from the deep on the bounce with any ease for example. Overall, he seems to lack real authority in his role and if that continues, the selectors may look elsewhere for the India tour.

Honestly, unless he descends to Kamran Akmal level poor with the gloves, I can't see the selectors dumping him as long as he's contributing with the bat. Given that he's still young (turns 25 on Boxing Day), I reckon they'll stick with him in the hopes that his keeping will improve - which you'd expect it to do, mind you. Gilchrist, Healy and Marsh all improved greatly over their careers with the gloves and I suppose the selectors' view is that a couple of missed chances here and there is worth the investment.

[Spikey]

Originally Posted by uvelocity

I'll back em to pick ncn. be him, bird or cutting you'd say? and play johnson anyway

i see three groups

the guys with good stats but
bird, cutting, butterworth, hastings, faulkner etc

poni's
ncn, mcd jr (still playing one game/missing one game. not in contention then probably?). and then....well I guess all the poni's are dead.

the rest, led by
bollinger (1st time he's really been fit, like not-injured-and-has-played-a-month-or-two-of-cricket since the new panel took over. who knows what their position will be) putland & feldman

(from what I've seen of putland and feldman, they don't really deserve the but tag. pews to confirm/deny.)

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by andyc

Honestly, unless he descends to Kamran Akmal level poor with the gloves, I can't see the selectors dumping him as long as he's contributing with the bat. Given that he's still young (turns 25 on Boxing Day), I reckon they'll stick with him in the hopes that his keeping will improve - which you'd expect it to do, mind you. Gilchrist, Healy and Marsh all improved greatly over their careers with the gloves and I suppose the selectors' view is that a couple of missed chances here and there is worth the investment.

CA does love Tim Paine though. If Paine actually manages to hit a few consecutive fifties in Shield cricket (was going to say a ton, but you know..) then the pressure will mount IMO. Obviously there's no Shield cricket at the moment and I reckon Wade will be getting this series regardless, but never underestimate how highly Paine is rated by those who matter, justifiably or not.

[flibbertyjibber]

Originally Posted by andyc

Honestly, unless he descends to Kamran Akmal level poor with the gloves, I can't see the selectors dumping him as long as he's contributing with the bat. Given that he's still young (turns 25 on Boxing Day), I reckon they'll stick with him in the hopes that his keeping will improve - which you'd expect it to do, mind you. Gilchrist, Healy and Marsh all improved greatly over their careers with the gloves and I suppose the selectors' view is that a couple of missed chances here and there is worth the investment.

Looks a similar standard to what Prior was for us when he first got picked. Needs to improve and surely will as long as he puts the effort in. Can certainly bat a bit.

[Spikey]

Originally Posted by andyc

Honestly, unless he descends to Kamran Akmal level poor with the gloves, I can't see the selectors dumping him as long as he's contributing with the bat. Given that he's still young (turns 25 on Boxing Day), I reckon they'll stick with him in the hopes that his keeping will improve - which you'd expect it to do, mind you. Gilchrist, Healy and Marsh all improved greatly over their careers with the gloves and I suppose the selectors' view is that a couple of missed chances here and there is worth the investment.

This is a pretty weird spot though. I mean, we've got two Ashes series' in the next 12 months. And the guy who Wade got the spot from is actually still playing, is in ripping form, and there's good reason to believe he would be better than wade. and yeah add paine and all that. precedence might not count for much here

[centurymaker]

what a pool of seam bowlers australia have got-

Pattingson
Cummings
Siddle
Hilfy
Harris
Starc
Johnson
hazlewood
Bollinger
Cutting
Hastings
Faulkner
Copeland
and so on...

compare that to one of ind or sl

and i forgot about the guys who particularly do well in the limited overs

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by Spikey

i see three groups

the guys with good stats but
bird, cutting, butterworth, hastings, faulkner etc

poni's
ncn, mcd jr (still playing one game/missing one game. not in contention then probably?). and then....well I guess all the poni's are dead.

the rest, led by
bollinger (1st time he's really been fit, like not-injured-and-has-played-a-month-or-two-of-cricket since the new panel took over. who knows what their position will be) putland & feldman

(from what I've seen of putland and feldman, they don't really deserve the but tag. pews to confirm/deny.)

Confirmed ftr.

Putland definitely has some fans in administration and commentary but that's more in terms of SACA than CA; I don't think he's on the radar and I definitely won't call him a PONI but he certainly does look a more threatening bowler now that he's put on a little bit more pace.

Feldman's an interesting one in that CA don't seem too bothered about McDermott being left out for him (they've intervened in NSW/Victoria affairs as we know) even though McDermott played for Australia A and has even been in Australian LO squads - that made me think Feldman was being looked at too. Then Gannon started playing ahead of McDermott though and it kind of put that theory to rest.

You left Cutting in the first group too which I found interesting. I don't rate Cutting at all as you know but he's a young bowler having a good Shield season who has been in the Australian squad before. Bowling pies on TV all the time counts against him I guess but he'd be in the mix somewhere, direly enough.

[uvelocity]

Originally Posted by Spikey

i see three groups

the guys with good stats but
bird, cutting, butterworth, hastings, faulkner etc

poni's
ncn, mcd jr (still playing one game/missing one game. not in contention then probably?). and then....well I guess all the poni's are dead.

the rest, led by
bollinger (1st time he's really been fit, like not-injured-and-has-played-a-month-or-two-of-cricket since the new panel took over. who knows what their position will be) putland & feldman

(from what I've seen of putland and feldman, they don't really deserve the but tag. pews to confirm/deny.)

i think they would have picked dougeh ahead of john wayne if they thought he was still alive. junior burger cant be in the frame. ncn or bird imo, neither are the worst anyway. ncn's batting to tip it in his favour

think they will stick with wade like others said while his batting is going well. haddin's keeping went to crap for a while before he had to step aside, but it was the runs that put the most pressure on him I think rightly or wrongly

[SirBloody Idiot]

Ok what does PONI stand for?

Putrid or Nearly Invincible?
Project on Nuclear Issues?
Penis of Nine Inches?

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot

Ok what does PONI stand for?

Putrid or Nearly Invincible?
Project on Nuclear Issues?
Penis of Nine Inches?

Player of National Interest

[Spark]

Bird must have gained brownie points from putting on a few kms. Was hitting 140 recently.

[quincywagstaff]

Back on Wade, after this series is a tour for India and I think most would agree that that's a much tougher challenge for keepers than any ground in Australia is. If he's struggling to keep to spin in Oz, how's he going to handle it there?

[Spikey]

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Feldman's an interesting one in that CA don't seem too bothered about McDermott being left out for him (they've intervened in NSW/Victoria affairs as we know) even though McDermott played for Australia A and has even been in Australian LO squads - that made me think Feldman was being looked at too. Then Gannon started playing ahead of McDermott though and it kind of put that theory to rest.

Feldman actually made his List A debut for Australia A. Whether that was a case of injury striking and him being the closest player, I don't know. but that was itstl when I saw it the other day. His current Mo def. gives him something the others don't have

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

You left Cutting in the first group too which I found interesting. I don't rate Cutting at all as you know he's a young bowler having a good Shield season who has been in the Australian squad before. Bowling pies on TV all the time counts against him I guess but he'd be in the mix somewhere, direly enough.

well it's a different but compared to butterworth etc, but I don't think it's too out-of-line to place him in with the rest of the people in the group. I would have put Herrick in there too, ftr