***Official*** Sri Lanka in Australia 2012/2013

[benchmark00]

I mean ffs, ofcourse I want the best XI chosen every game, and ofcourse I'm frustrated that Starc and co can't play every game, however this is a temporary thing. This won't always be the case. In a few years time we'll have a bowling group which are all around 25, significant international exposure, and 8-10 years of test cricket ahead of them and able to play every game like the South African attack can.

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

N00fan... if you were given advice that Starc had a significant chance of sustaining an injury which would lead to him having a 3-6 month lay off, or have the alternative, sit out the game and resume in Sydney risk free. What would you choose?

Well if it was very likely he'd get injured during the game, I would chose the resting, but I call bull**** on it.

Why will he suddenly be risk free in Sydney, he'll be getting rusty by then. I know SCG is his home ground, but I'm a firm believer of Australia picking the best Test XI always especially when the series is still alive. Resting means that we are forever planning for the future and never 100% in the now.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

Well if it was very likely he'd get injured during the game, I would chose the resting, but I call bull**** on it.

Why will he suddenly be risk free in Sydney, he'll be getting rusty by then. I know SCG is his home ground, but I'm a firm believer of Australia picking the best Test XI always especially when the series is still alive. Resting means that we are forever planning for the future and never 100% in the now.

He will be risk free because his work load wouldn't be overflowing.

And getting rusty? He'll have the same break between test matches as there is between home series. He'll go a week and half without playing test cricket. Pretty sure he'll remember how to bowl.

[NUFAN]

It just annoys me more so for the fact that its Johnson who is being given a chance to represent his country when he should be at the shops buying lipstick at the Boxing Day sales.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

It just annoys me more so for the fact that its Johnson who is being given a chance to represent his country when he should be at the shops buying lipstick at the Boxing Day sales.

Yes I agree with that. It shouldn't be Johnson, no way.

But I guess we need a leader of the attack...

[chaminda_00]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

Talk me through these injuries?

Too tired to go into a discussion about the degree of injuries and relative nature of what impact workload management has on the type of injuries. Because I know I'll just get the stock standard response that has been in this thread from you about workload management has nothing to do with some certain injuries etc etc.

But end of the day Test cricket is like running a marathon. You can't expect to get through the 50 kms, if you haven't miles before and just being running on treadmill as you preparation.

I don't disagree with the science aspects of injuries and resting. I just think they have gone over the top with resting and bowling restrictions. Bowlers aren't bowling fit going into FC and Test cricket and now resting is required to keep bowlers on the park for 8-12 years. Because they haven't given them to preparation to be bowling fit when they are young due to bowling restrictions.

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

He will be risk free because his work load wouldn't be overflowing.

And getting rusty? He'll have the same break between test matches as there is between home series. He'll go a week and half without playing test cricket. Pretty sure he'll remember how to bowl.

A week ia a long time in footy/test cricket. So what happens if we lose now at the G and it rains in Sydney - drawn series, but some fresh quicks just in time for the Big Bash Finalz..

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by chaminda_00

Too tired to go into a discussion about the degree of injuries and relative nature of what impact workload management has on the type of injuries. Because I know I'll just get the stock standard response that has been in this thread from you about workload management has nothing to do with some certain injuries etc etc.

But end of the day Test cricket is like running a marathon. You can't expect to get through the 50 kms, if you haven't miles before and just being running on treadmill as you preparation.

I don't disagree with the science aspects of injuries and resting. I just think they have gone over the top with resting and bowling restrictions. Bowlers aren't bowling fit going into FC and Test cricket and now resting is required to keep bowlers on the park for 8-12 years. Because they haven't given them to preparation to be bowling fit when they are young due to bowling restrictions.

But ffs you won't get 'bowling fit' if you're on the sidelines for 6 months with a stress fracture will you??

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

A week ia a long time in footy/test cricket. So what happens if we lose now at the G and it rains in Sydney - drawn series, but some fresh quicks just in time for the Big Bash Finalz..

What happens if Starc plays in Melbourne, Australia bowl first, Starc develops stress fractures in his foot, it rains (more likely in Melbourne, let's face it), it's a draw, then we go to Sydney without Starc able to play, Sri Lanka win. Drawn series.

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

What happens if Starc plays in Melbourne, Australia bowl first, Starc develops stress fractures in his foot, it rains (more likely in Melbourne, let's face it), it's a draw, then we go to Sydney without Starc able to play, Sri Lanka win. Drawn series.

What happens if Starc gets to do his job two weeks in a row and we win the series 3-0 gaining a ****load of confidence, further experience and we pretty much have Siddle, Starc and Pattinson locked in as our 3 premier quicks with a host of other bowlers not named Johnson in contention for an Ashes birth.

[chaminda_00]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

But ffs you won't get 'bowling fit' if you're on the sidelines for 6 months with a stress fracture will you??

No, but you also won't get bowling fit, if you only play every 2nd game with your actually fit to play either.

It is about having a balance and they have the balance wrong between resting and getting young players bowling fit.

The way they are trying to manage the bowlers they will reduce the 6 months injuries yes, but they are increasing injuries the short term 1-2 month injuries because they bowlers are never truly bowling fit to last five days of intensive Test cricket.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by NUFAN

What happens if Starc gets to do his job two weeks in a row and we win the series 3-0 gaining a ****load of confidence, further experience and we pretty much have Siddle, Starc and Pattinson locked in as our 3 premier quicks with a host of other bowlers not named Johnson in contention for an Ashes birth.

Wouldn't matter because they'll all be rusty by their next series itbt.

[NUFAN]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

Wouldn't matter because they'll all be rusty by their next series itbt.

Nope. That's when sports science kicks in OR more likely, one of the quicks breaks down playing a meaningless ODI or something.

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by Redbacks

They did a study on it in India but the results had to be chucked out as the conclusion of each trial was that tendulkar is better than Bradman.

If I remember correctly Sreesanth broke down and he got to play the next game.

[Son Of Coco]

Tried to find a video of this young Jackson Bird fellow bowling...ended up with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZObbXS0k4o