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a. Why they rest these blokes, from a scientific POV. I don't want to hear your or anyone else's take on it, I want this overpaid numpty to explain it; and
b. why, despite all this bloody resting and fantastic management of blokes, they're all still getting the same injuries time and again.
FMD Cummins will retire at 30 having played one test at this rate because "we wanted to manage him right and didnt want to risk him".
Last edited by Burgey; 24-12-2012 at 05:39 AM.
Jackson Munro Bird, eh?
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What's the SP on the boy? Great figures, but saw him in the Renegades game when Warne got spanked and he didn't immediately scream "test bowler" to me.
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Young fast bowlers need their work load managed until they turn 24/25. After that, they are much more resilient and don't need to be managed to the same degree. But until then, to ensure they can play as much cricket as possible, in the near and far future, they need to be rotated because they can't handle it.
You can either accept that or you can yell at more faceless men ****. But that's the facts.
Jaxon Bird is pretty decent tbf. Won't get many complaints about his selection from these quarters.
The others though.
I don't mean the flogging btw. Anything goes there for a result.
Karl Strfanovic been on the turps pre-Carols it seems.
The Pattinson situation of last season is perfect proof. They had indications that he was going to sustain the injury, but they did what you wanted them to do, played him anyway, he broke down.
You can't 'prove' that it's going to work. You won't be satisfied with them saying 'if we played Starc in Melbourne he would have broken down' because there's no way to prove it to your satisfaction.
We have a number of young fast bowlers, that's the problem. Alot of other countries don't have that. They don't have to manage it like Australia do. South Africa have a settled fast bowling line up because they're all experienced. In 3/4 years we will be able to enjoy the same, but until then you'll have to suck it up.
Sports science is here, deal with it
They did a study on it in India but the results had to be chucked out as the conclusion of each trial was that tendulkar is better than Bradman.
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Resting fast bowlers is nothing new. It has been happening in ODIs and domestic cricket for 10-15 years now. It just now it has hit Test cricket, due the high number of Tests matches played continually increasing.
The management of young fast bowlers workloads have been going on for the same period, where young fast bowlers are restricted to limited number of overs and spell while they are young.
I get the whole science behind it and theories. But the are bowlers careers lasting more then 8-12 seasons at the top level. Are bowlers not still getting injured after their 24/25 with stress injuries.
Your a long time injured and a short time fit as fast bowlers. Players need to play when they are fit and need to develop their bowling bodies. Not just gym bodies because all they do is spend time in gym not the cricket pitch.
Yes Starc could get injured next Test, he could also get injured in Sydney or the ODI series. But he is fit now.
Resting Pattinson during the domestic OD competition for Victoria didn't stop him from getting injured during the Test series.
These young fast bowlers will never be match fit to last a long season or just one Test series, because they never bowl enough when they are young or when they are actually fit to bowl.
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