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    Originally posted by Tim
    Hamish Marshall continues to bat with such composure yet his SR is in the high 70's, early 80's also.
    I'm sure the selectors will be very interested now in seeing if James Marshall can do the same.

    What we should at least do is have them both in the nets out the back. Tell Bracewell he can send in whoever he wants!

    I don't know what kind of concrete wickets they had in Warkworth, but I guess James being also likely to prefer Shoaib over Brent Hefford makes sense, in a bizarre kind of way.

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    Jacob Oram 10 overs 2/28 on a belter like this is sensational.
    Boy has his bowling improved throughout this tour.

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    Razzaq almost got him home, what a fabulous innings. That made my day, top stuff. If only Akhtar had made that second run instead of lazily jogging Pakistan may of won.
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    Originally posted by Tim
    The pitch is still a belter & if Razzaq or Inzi get going then this could go right to the wire.
    Very prophetic there Tim!
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    Despite the fact that Adams gave Razzaq a healthy diet of half volleys, that was a brilliant display of hitting.

    Actually that innings deserve to win the match, it really was a magical display of powerhouse hitting.

    In the end though it was the fielding that was the difference, Pakistan probably gave away 20 or 30 runs in the field where as NZ probably saved about 20 or 30 runs.

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    If you look at Craig Cumming, he scored 31 with the bat but probably saved an extra 10 or 12 runs through brilliant fielding yesterday, so really he scored around 45 runs.

    Marshall probably scored a 100 through good fielding at point also.

    I think Cumming has shown sufficient strides in the last 2 games to suggest he's worth keeping for the South African ODI's.

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    Come on, Oram is a much better allround player than Flintoff.

    Big Jake has really comed in reaps and bounds over the past year, and is now a genuine third seamer.

    Oram is now in the Top 10 ODI bowler rankings.

    His fielding is excellent, and his stops at gully are unmatchable.

    Flintoff's test bowling average says it all really.

    And I don't wnat to see Adams play for NZ again unless he can show that he can bowl a good line.

    ALl this trash that he is our specialist bowler is nothing, its probably better for him to bowl his usual rubbish short stuff than those half volleys and leg side wasit high fulltosses.
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    Andre Adams has gone downhill in a big way, I doubt he'll make the ODI team for the South African matches. Jeff Wilson might get his chance.

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    Adams has never been good. His 5-22 was a pile of rubbish of short and wide balls at some Indians that weren't interested because of teh green seamers. Adams has to increase his accuracy. Butler must improve his radar as well if he is not to follow a similar fate.

    In a full strength team, I see no place for Jeff Wilson.

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    Interesting to see Hamish Marshall go straight back into action today for N.D & he was out for 6.

    He still can't buy many runs at FC level.

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    Ah who cares!

    As long as he performs at ODIs!

    But seriously, I doubt he will furthen his ODI career based on his ODI performances along. He really needs to rack up some runs at State Championship.

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    Northern Districts are rubbish, how they won the State Shield last season I don't know but whether it be State Championship or Shield this season they've always been around 70/5.

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    Well, they have always relied on the likes of Styris to pull them through.

    Canterbury will win, they have the best team by miles on paper.

    Papps, Stewart, Astle, Fulton, McMillan, Cairns, Harris, McCullum, Wiseman, Martin, Wisneski (Bond).

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    Originally posted by Mingster
    But seriously, I doubt he will furthen his ODI career based on his ODI performances along. He really needs to rack up some runs at State Championship.
    So if he continues to average around 40-50 in ODI's, but doesn't score runs in FC cricket - you reckon he'll be dropped?!

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    Originally posted by TDCC Young Guns
    we dont have the batters to do taht though. this was shown by the recent tour to pakistan. papps fulton macintosh how and taylor are all big up and commers but they are all still pretty young. macca hasnt been going to bad. i dont see cumming getting dropped for the sa series. particully if we get another good start today.

    I have to disagree with you on that one ...........the squad taken to Pakistan for the ODIs should not be seen as an indication of the alternative NZ batting - they took a new top 3 but the rest were 'established' ODI players - the majority of 'new' players seen were in the 'allrounder' / bowler depts......

    I have to agree with Tim re Papps & McIntosh - both have had 3 good seasons under their belts where they have been close to dominating the domestic runs scoring, & both are now 24 which is older than the age at which some of the current team made their international debuts!!!

    IMO there are now several other players who are also coming into contention for squad selections, such as Fulton and to a lesser extent Nichol & Ryder...........likewise I also believe that there are other players like H Marshall who are not so consistant at domestic level yet could thrive on the better pitches & competition at International levels.........

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