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Old 18-11-2012, 03:28 AM   #76 (permalink)
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I think Top Cat was calling Tendulkar a flat track bully.
yeh err nice try. unfortunately for you, i dont have the mentality of a two year old.
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Old 18-11-2012, 07:41 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Already a Tendulkar thread on page 6?

Urgh.
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Idiotic post. Yes, it was a seam bowling friendly series, so what? How does that make it any different from an Indian dustbowl series? They didn't cry, they copped their dismissals on the chin and set to bowling India out for less than we scored. Maybe if Ganguly spent as much time practising his batting as he did complaining he would have scored some bloody runs.
hahaha, Flem.. I am all for pitches that help seamers now and then as well but 99 plays 94 in the first innings is no one's definition of a good deck or a normal deck. It was a fair dinkum greentop.
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Old 18-11-2012, 03:10 PM   #81 (permalink)
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hahaha, Flem.. I am all for pitches that help seamers now and then as well but 99 plays 94 in the first innings is no one's definition of a good deck or a normal deck. It was a fair dinkum greentop.
No it wasn't ffs. Look at the pitches up there. Just because the batsmen were too **** to handle good bowling on a deck with a bit of movement, it doesn't make it a green top.

It's like saying every subcontinent deck is **** because Ian Bell can't bat on it.
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Lol.

Those were greentops. Doesn't mean they were bad pitches, but the low scores and flurry of wickets were definitely not down to **** batting.
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Lol.

Those were greentops. Doesn't mean they were bad pitches, but the low scores and flurry of wickets were definitely not down to **** batting.
The Hamilton pitch was a nightmare surface, batsmen had no chance. The pitch at Wellington was very lively, but as Mark Richardson showed, with a bit of patience and application it was perfectly possible to make runs. Unfortunately, none of the Indian batsmen were really prepared to make such an adjustment.
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Yes that is all correct. But that doesn't mean its not a greentop. It just means the Indian batsmen weren't willing/couldn't bat properly on the wicket.

Flem is saying it wasn't a greentop, which is crazy imo. Clearly those wickets were green, everyone acknowledges that. The debate/argument is whether those wickets were bad for cricket.

I don't really see how you can blame NZ anyway. The weather was the main reason they were so green. From what I remember, NZ were apologetic for a lot of the tour because there was not much they could do about it.
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Yes that is all correct. But that doesn't mean its not a greentop. It just means the Indian batsmen weren't willing/couldn't bat properly on the wicket.

Flem is saying it wasn't a greentop, which is crazy imo. Clearly those wickets were green, everyone acknowledges that. The debate/argument is whether those wickets were bad for cricket.

I don't really see how you can blame NZ anyway. The weather was the main reason they were so green. From what I remember, NZ were apologetic for a lot of the tour because there was not much they could do about it.
The pitch at Wellington was a day one greentop. By day 3, it had browned off nicely, which made India's collapse in the 2nd innings all the more insipid tbh.

Think pitches like the Wellington surface or great for test cricket. It really ****s me that New Zealand curators are falling over themselves to produce roads nowadays. We're playing at home, and the conditions should suit our strengths (clearly our seam bowling).

Anyway, this has gone waaaaaay off topic.
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Urgh.
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Old 19-11-2012, 08:52 PM   #87 (permalink)
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he was just dejected and slouched in disappointment. what is legendary is how a lot of non indian fans on here seem to be stalkers of tendulkars every precise movement. So guys tell me, what direction were his farts blowing in that day??? i'm sure one of you guys would have picked up on this information during the video.
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No it wasn't ffs. Look at the pitches up there. Just because the batsmen were too **** to handle good bowling on a deck with a bit of movement, it doesn't make it a green top.

It's like saying every subcontinent deck is **** because Ian Bell can't bat on it.
As Joni says, I am not here saying they were bad for the game.. YOu need the greentops and you need the turners.. that is what makes this game great.. A NZ 2003 deserves a Mumbai 2004 and batsmen of this generation deserve both sorts of tracks to bring them a sense of reality otherwise lost in the flat track mayhem.. But those were greentops and that is that.
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Think this piece by Ed Smith sums Sehwag up pretty well, in terms of the mental strength he has shown in staying true to his own game despite the type of consistent failures that may have others adopting an alternative approach.

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