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Old 14-11-2012, 09:11 PM   #31 (permalink)
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To be completely honest, he has got runs in swinging conditions in the past and as recently as in RSA in 2010, he was getting starts, same in NZ in 2009.. I just think he has lost a lot of discipline and concentration and that has resulted in his form, fitness and his own technique ( as original as it was) going down the drain..
I think I would agree with this analysis
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Doesn't have to just be one reason.

Mix of age, fitness, technique and being a cocky **** have all played a role in his decline.
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Old 14-11-2012, 09:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well if he can't score runs on this pitch today he may as well give up.
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Old 14-11-2012, 10:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
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+1 this. It appears that his own focus and commitment has taken a dip in last couple of years.

EDIT: +1 HB's post I mean.
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Old 14-11-2012, 10:23 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 14-11-2012, 10:29 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Looks like my best Indian batsman - 1st Innings bet at 4.5 for Sehwag is going to pay off.

Looking as comfortable and non-desperate as a batsman be.
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the pitch is pretty ****e as well
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Old 15-11-2012, 08:45 AM   #38 (permalink)
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To be completely honest, he has got runs in swinging conditions in the past and as recently as in RSA in 2010, he was getting starts, same in NZ in 2009.. I just think he has lost a lot of discipline and concentration and that has resulted in his form, fitness and his own technique ( as original as it was) going down the drain..
He is a good enough player to have success at times in conditions he is not entirely comfortable with. He has played enough cricket to score runs on occasions when it is swinging around or seaming about a bit, but his record in England where he averages 27.80, South Africa 25.47, and New Zealand 20.00 suggest he generally finds the going much more difficult, and that isn't surprising with the way he plays. He has had success in Australia to his credit where there's more bounce around, but his record is so impeccable because once he is in in his own comfortable conditions, he cashes in.
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Christ Teja you're a ****.

this is worse than that Jos Buttler thread
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Old 15-11-2012, 12:44 PM   #40 (permalink)
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He is a good enough player to have success at times in conditions he is not entirely comfortable with. He has played enough cricket to score runs on occasions when it is swinging around or seaming about a bit, but his record in England where he averages 27.80, South Africa 25.47, and New Zealand 20.00 suggest he generally finds the going much more difficult, and that isn't surprising with the way he plays. He has had success in Australia to his credit where there's more bounce around, but his record is so impeccable because once he is in in his own comfortable conditions, he cashes in.
Well.. I m guessing the story behind those numbers would be more telling than just the numbers itself but I am not in the mood for statistic based debates.. I agree with your analysis to an extent, that he is obviously much more comfortable in these conditions than in those conditions but I do think he has become a worse player abroad than he was as recently as 3 or 4 years ago due to a lot of laziness and indiscipline than anything else.


His innings yesterday for instance, it was clear he still has the same issues in terms of footwork and fitness (compared to his pomp) but at least his mind was in a better state and he seemed to be thinking with more clarity and that helped him get those runs.
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Well.. I m guessing the story behind those numbers would be more telling than just the numbers itself but I am not in the mood for statistic based debates.. I agree with your analysis to an extent, that he is obviously much more comfortable in these conditions than in those conditions but I do think he has become a worse player abroad than he was as recently as 3 or 4 years ago due to a lot of laziness and indiscipline than anything else.


His innings yesterday for instance, it was clear he still has the same issues in terms of footwork and fitness (compared to his pomp) but at least his mind was in a better state and he seemed to be thinking with more clarity and that helped him get those runs.

Most first class cricketers could of tonned up on that pitch, with their eyes closed yesterday.

When the ball doesn't get above the knee roll, it's pretty easy to smack.
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Most first class cricketers could of tonned up on that pitch, with their eyes closed yesterday.

When the ball doesn't get above the knee roll, it's pretty easy to smack.
Yes, it's as easy as eating a plum pudding or a KFC Zinger Burger. Tom Moody could score a test ton on this pitch with a broomstick every day of the week against Anil Kumble's bowling, indeed.
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Yes, it's as easy as eating a plum pudding or a KFC Zinger Burger. Tom Moody could score a test ton on this pitch with a broomstick every day of the week against Anil Kumble's bowling, indeed.
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Most first class cricketers could of tonned up on that pitch, with their eyes closed yesterday.

When the ball doesn't get above the knee roll, it's pretty easy to smack.
It is could 'have'. And you're getting pretty repetitive.

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