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    English ATG Team- Open Voting

    Same as the Australian thread. The idea is to create an AT English XI by open voting.

    There will be four categories:

    - Opening batsmen (2)
    - Middle order batsmen (4)
    - Wicketkeeper (1)
    - Bowlers (4)

    - Some players (Botham & Alec Stewart, for example) will appear in two categories. So, if you want Botham as an all-rounder batting at six, please select him as a middle order batsman. If you want him as an all rounder batting somewhere from 7-11, please select him as one of your four bowlers. This is not entirely fair I guess, but I can't think of another way without forcing the selection of an all-rounder.

    You may wish to vote for players other than the ones I list. That's fine.

    We'll start with the openers, please select two of the following:

    Geoff Boycott
    Graham Gooch
    Mike Atherton
    Andrew Strauss
    Len Hutton
    Alastair Cook
    Marcus Trescothick
    Jack Hobbs
    Herb Sutcliffe
    Alec Stewart
    Michael Vaughan
    Dennis Amiss
    Arthur Shewsbury
    WG Grace
    Archie MacLaren
    CB Fry
    Cyril Washbrook
    John Edrich


    (England have produced a lot of ****ing good openers!)
    Last edited by Monk; 31-10-2012 at 08:40 PM. Reason: added Sean's recommendations.

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    Jack Hobbs and Len Hutton.

    Two of the top three English batsmen of All Time and the pair chosen by Cricinfo for the World All Time XI. Lets not over think this one by trying to be too cute guys.
    1st XI
    Hutton | Hobbs | Bradman* | Richards^ | Tendulkar | Sobers5^ | Gilchrist+ | Khan3 | Marshall1 | Warne4^ | McGrath2
    2nd XI
    Sutcliffe | Gavaskar* | Headley | Chappell^ | Lara^ | Kallis5^ | Knott+ | Hadlee3 | Ambrose2 | Lillee1 | Muralitharan4
    3rd XI
    Greenidge | Richards^ | Ponting^ | Pollock | Hammond^ | Worrell5* | Waite+ | Akram3 | Steyn1 | Holding2 | O'Reilly4
    4th XI
    Morris | Simpson^ | Sangakkara | Weekes^ | Border*^ | Walcott+ | Faulkner5 | Laker4 | Trueman1 | Garner3 | Donald2

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    Tempted to be cute. But **** it.

    Hobbs and Hutton
    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    This English top three are cornflakes. They're not the most exciting thing out but they're pretty effective. Then the middle order are the sugar. Would be too much on their own but added to the cornflakes they add some much needed interest

    When KP returns he will be the banana..

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    Hobbs and Hutton for me, but seriously tempted to take Boycott over Hutton.


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    Hobbs and Hutton.
    PRE WWI
    Grace-Trumper-Hill-Taylor-Ranjitsinhji-Faulkner-Noble-Lilley-Turner-Richardson-Barnes
    PRE WWII
    Hobbs-Sutcliffe-Bradman-Hammond-Headley-Macartney-Ames-Gregory-Larwood-O'Reilly-Grimmett
    POST WWII
    Hutton-Simpson-Kanhai-Pollock-Harvey-Sobers-Waite-Benaud-Davidson-Lindwall-Trueman
    PACKER ERA
    Gavaskar-Greenidge-Richards-Chappell-Lloyd-Botham-Imran-Knott-Lillee-Holding-Underwood
    MODERN ERA
    Hayden-Langer-Ponting-Tendulkar-Lara-Kallis-Gilchrist-Marshall-Warne-Ambrose-McGrath

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    Hobbs and Hutton.
    AT-XI
    #J.Hobbs; #L.Hutton; #D.Bradman; #V.Richards; #G.Sobers; #A.Border; #A.Gilchrist; #K.Miller; #I.Khan; #S.Warne; #M.Marshall;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Hobbs and Hutton for me, but seriously tempted to take Boycott over Hutton.
    Boycott was a great batsman as far as the art of batting goes, but his personality was too selfish and myopic. He fails as a team player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Boycott was a great batsman as far as the art of batting goes, but his personality was too selfish and myopic. He fails as a team player.
    Yep, that's what sways me.

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    England's collection of openers is absolutely in a class of its own, and this list is missing quite a few great ones (especially golden oldies) including off the top of my head:

    WG Grace
    Arthur Shrewsbury
    Archie MacLaren
    CB Fry
    Cyril Washbrook
    John Edrich

    For me England have produced the three greatest openers of all time, and four of the top six. With no restrictions I'd pick Grace and Hobbs and offer my profuse apologies to Sir Len. However, as we are tending to pick Test-specific XIs I'm more than happy to go with the consensus of Hobbs and Hutton. Sutcliffe bloody unlucky, as he would unquestionably make any other team.
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    Hobbs and Sutcliffe naturally
    Oh for a strong arm and a walking stick

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    Perm any two from Hobbs, Sutcliffe and Hutton - if forced to choose I'd omit Sutcliffe, but only just

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Tom View Post
    Hobbs and Hutton.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Yep, that's what sways me.
    Actually, it's more than that Monk. From what I gather, Geoff Boycott fails as a human being. Bit nasty I know, but true none-the-less.

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    Hobbs and Sutcliffe.

    Herb is, like maybe only Kenny Barrington, that rarest of things: an underrated English ATG.
    - As featured in The Independent.

    "Predictably, the ending of his international career did not end the argument about Pietersen's merits, as an army of informed commentators and Piers Morgan weighed in to defend or attack him."
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    Should be filled with players when only England was playing cricket.

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