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Best Bowling All Rounder

Best Bowling All Rounder

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Redsok

Cricket Spectator
Satyanash89 said:
Afraid im not going to be very original
As bowling ARs My order goes:

Imran

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Procter
Miller
Dev
Botham
Hadlee
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The problem is, most of you lot are extremely biased, with little to no proper knowledge.


Peak Botham (before his back injury) was GREATER than Imran and all of those guys combined. He was considered the greatest ALL AROUND Cricketer, and the biggest game changer.


For more CONTEXT..

Botham was the Fastest player to reach 1000 Test Runs and 100 Test Wickets. He did it in 21 games.. He was England's best bowler and also the most game changing batsman at the same time.

Wankhede 1980 is possibly the greatest feat by any cricketer. Just Ian Botham being Ian Botham..

In Botham's first 25 Tests, he scored 6 hundreds and took 140 wickets. 14 5-wicket hauls and 3 10-wicket hauls. Then scored runs for fun, including centuries after centuries..




But the man played too many games, and did too much for the team.. with extremely long spells. He was never the same since that back injury.




And don't forget, Imran only became Imran because of the Final Half of his career. Last 8 years, to be exact. Before that, he was only a great fast bowler. Nothing else.. Definitely not any kind of "all rounder".
 
Red

Red

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Redsok said:
And don't forget, Imran only became Imran because of the Final Half of his career. Last 8 years, to be exact. Before that, he was only a great fast bowler. Nothing else.. Definitely not any kind of "all rounder".
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Excluding the last 8 years of his career and focussing on the first 13 years (which for some reason you want to do), when you say he wasn't "any kind of all rounder", he made 2000 runs at an average of 31 in that period (71-84).

Weird take saying a guy who averaged 31 with the bat wasn't "any kind of all rounder".

2000 runs at an average of 31, 232 wickets at 22. Pretty sure any team would take that as an all rounder.
 
jimmy101

jimmy101

Cricketer Of The Year
You'd be forgiven for thinking that Redsok came straight from the cemetery the way he's necroing his way through these threads.
 
ataraxia

ataraxia

International Coach
Redsok said:
The problem is, most of you lot are extremely biased, with little to no proper knowledge.


Peak Botham (before his back injury) was GREATER than Imran and all of those guys combined. He was considered the greatest ALL AROUND Cricketer, and the biggest game changer.


For more CONTEXT..

Botham was the Fastest player to reach 1000 Test Runs and 100 Test Wickets. He did it in 21 games.. He was England's best bowler and also the most game changing batsman at the same time.

****hede 1980 is possibly the greatest feat by any cricketer. Just Ian Botham being Ian Botham..

In Botham's first 25 Tests, he scored 6 hundreds and took 140 wickets. 14 5-wicket hauls and 3 10-wicket hauls. Then scored runs for fun, including centuries after centuries..




But the man played too many games, and did too much for the team.. with extremely long spells. He was never the same since that back injury.




And don't forget, Imran only became Imran because of the Final Half of his career. Last 8 years, to be exact. Before that, he was only a great fast bowler. Nothing else.. Definitely not any kind of "all rounder".
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So the second half of a career doesn't count but the first half does?
 
ankitj

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Redsok said:
Botham was the Fastest player to reach 1000 Test Runs and 100 Test Wickets
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But was he the fastest to reach 3000 test runs and 100 wickets? He may well have been but this is the better measure because 1 wkt ≠10 runs, it's more like 1 wkt ~ 30 runs. 1000 runs and 100 wickets favours bowling all-rounders heavily.
 
trundler

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Botham's first 7 years are all that count but Imran's last 8 years don't count at all for some reason. Also, Imran, uh, blows Botham out of the water as a bowler.
 
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