***Official*** West Indies in Bangladesh 2012

[Prince EWS]

I think one of the main reasons Bangladesh haven't developed the sort of player you're referring to is the simple fact that they haven't been able to afford one in their history until now. Their batting lineup before recently has been poor so they needed proper batsmen who could play proper innings way down to 7 or even 8 in order to post decent totals; there's no point having a power hitting finisher come in at 7 if he's going to have 20 overs to bat when he comes in.

 

[Challis]

BD best line-up would look something like this:

Tamim
Anamul
Shakib
Mushy
Riyad
Nasir
Mominul
Mashrafe
Gazi
Razzak
Rubel

That's a pretty strong team in home conditions, someone as good as Sunny can't get in the side! It's no wonder BD are currently in such good form in ODIs. I don't think too many teams would be massive favourites against then in BD.
Remarkably it wasn't that long ago when we were picking Rokibul Hasan, Shahadat, Siddique, Nafees, Nazimuddin. What a difference it makes when you drop the deadwood. I'd say that the ODI World Cup came 18 months too early, I'd love to have seen this team play in it, would have backed them to reach the knockout stage at the least.

 

[Challis]

I think one of the main reasons Bangladesh haven't developed the sort of player you're referring to is the simple fact that they haven't been able to afford one in their history until now. Their batting lineup before recently has been poor so they needed proper batsmen who could play proper innings way down to 7 or even 8 in order to post decent totals; there's no point having a power hitting finisher come in at 7 if he's going to have 20 overs to bat when he comes in.

very true, now they have/will have a pretty stable batting lineup, I'd love to see them take the initiative and look to play someone in that role.

 

[cricman]

Aftab Ahmed used to be able ti finish of ODI innings with a flurry, not he can't even make contact with the ball.

The thing with these Power Sloggers, is that you still need to have very good hand eye coordination. Many still don't thats why were no good in T20's

 

[cnerd123]

Why was Razzak not playing in the Tests, out of curiosity?

Did he retire from that format, or are the selectors pidgeon-holing him as an ODI specialist.

 

[Challis]

Why was Razzak not playing in the Tests, out of curiosity?

Did he retire from that format, or are the selectors pidgeon-holing him as an ODI specialist.

He had his chance and was pretty awful in the 9 Tests he played in and since then hasn't been recalled. I think they're correct in limiting him to just limited overs cricket even though recently he has taken buckets loads of wickets in the NCL. He doesn't have the patience or guile to be successful at the Test level, a bit like Tahir. There are better SLA for the longer version such as Elias Sunny and Enamul Haque Jr.

 

[cnerd123]

He's been killer in the NCL, and did decently enough against ZImbabwe in his last couple of tests.

May not be a wicket-taker like Sunny, but does build pressure well. Would be useful on flat decks like the ones against the Windies.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah I don't think it's completely beyond the realms of possibility to suggest Razzak could improve upon his Test record to date, but when someone like Sunny can't get a game there's just no need to go there. Spin stocks are well covered for without trying to turn Razzak into something he's not.

 

[CricAddict]

BD best line-up would look something like this:

Tamim
Anamul
Shakib
Mushy
Riyad
Nasir
Mominul
Mashrafe
Gazi
Razzak
Rubel

That's a pretty strong team in home conditions, someone as good as Sunny can't get in the side! It's no wonder BD are currently in such good form in ODIs. I don't think too many teams would be massive favourites against then in BD.
Remarkably it wasn't that long ago when we were picking Rokibul Hasan, Shahadat, Siddique, Nafees, Nazimuddin. What a difference it makes when you drop the deadwood. I'd say that the ODI World Cup came 18 months too early, I'd love to have seen this team play in it, would have backed them to reach the knockout stage at the least.

Sometime back, there was a guy who retired and unretired because he wasn't selected in the team right?
I don't recollect his name. I don't think he can come anywhere near the team now.

 

[cnerd123]

Raqibul Hasan.

He's a good bat. I'd like to see him back in this side sometime in the future. The middle order is still weak in Tests.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

bowl six straight deliveries to Raqibul, he'll miss one

 

[NUFAN]

I was hoping betting sites would have gone off WI by now, but nope they are still short priced favourites at $1.34.

Just on Razzak, no thanks re: Tests. He doesn't do enough and is well down the pecking order. Good ODI bowler though.

 

[Challis]

Yeah I don't think it's completely beyond the realms of possibility to suggest Razzak could improve upon his Test record to date, but when someone like Sunny can't get a game there's just no need to go there. Spin stocks are well covered for without trying to turn Razzak into something he's not.

Also someone as good as Enamul Haque Jr can't get in to the squad, he's currently in beast mode in the NCL. In fact I read in another forum that several successful batsmen from the NCL regarded Enamul as the most threatening spinner in this and the past few seasons. Saqlain Sajib, Sohag Gazi and Noor Hossain Munna were also rated highly

Raqibul Hasan.

He's a good bat. I'd like to see him back in this side sometime in the future. The middle order is still weak in Tests.

No, No, No with a capital N. You have to get with the times, there is no place for someone like Raqibul Hasan in any format. A Test average under 20 and a first class average under 30 is very poor even by BD standards. I genuinely would prefer Ashraful to him, and that's saying something. There are many up and coming batsmen better than both.
Also the middle order is probably the strongest part of the BD line-up; it consists of Naeem, Shakib, Mushfiqur, Nasir and Riyad

I was hoping betting sites would have gone off WI by now, but nope they are still short priced favourites at $1.34.

WI will be more suited to Mirpur Dhaka than Khulna (and Chittagong). It's where the infamous 58 and 78 all out from the World Cup occurred. There will be something there for the fast bowlers, not huge but just enough to trouble the BD batsmen. However BD did beat India and Sri Lanka and had two narrow losses against Pakistan in the Asia cup so they may feel that they can perform well there too.

 

[cnerd123]

Raqibul's barely played enough to judge him fairly.

He's always looked a good batsman. It's just a matter of screwing his head on straight and scoring the runs.

Naeem's alright, but I'm not convinced he's Test quality. Will only be able to tell after a few more matches.

We need a solid number 3 tho. Raqibul could do that. Not advocating picking him right away, but somewhere down the line.

 

[Challis]

Raqibul neither has the technique or attitude to survive at international level. I remember reading about him boasting to a journalist how he scored a pretty 40 odd in a practice match against a touring side and asked the journalist why didn't he write about it. I'm confident he won't play for BD at international level in any format again.

 

[cnerd123]

Raqibul neither has the technique or attitude to survive at international level. I remember reading about him boasting to a journalist how he scored a pretty 40 odd in a practice match against a touring side and asked the journalist why didn't he write about it. I'm confident he won't play for BD at international level in any format again.

Raqibul's techniques okay. He looks good. Bit flashy and goes for his shots, but you expect that of a BD player.

Attitude and temperament, that's why he's not playing for them atm. But I do believe he has the talent to get back into the playing XI if he gets his act together.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Raqibul works hard but sadly he doesn't have the mentality to succeed at this level

 

[Prince EWS]

I really liked Raqibul the first few times I saw him bat; his footwork around off stump and willingness to actually use the crease and get back to the quicks really impressed me. I thought he'd be Bangladesh's long term #4 in Test cricket.

He seems like a complete dickhead though to put it bluntly - "very immature" to be kind - which probably explains why most of his best innings against good attacks have come in warmup matches and the like which don't actually count. He freezes in the spotlight.

 

[African Monkey]

Raqubul Hasan . Maybe Aftab Ahmed and Imrul Kayes can come back too.

 

[NUFAN]

Spinners are doing well today.

I put two bets on today's matches which I thought with quite generous odds, I felt.

Over 3.5 runs in the first innings of the match @ 2.06 - thanks Amanul
No 100 scored in the first innings @ 1.48