Luke 'Benedict Arnold' Ronchi poised to play for NZ

LongHopCassidy · 23-10-2012, 04:10 PM

Features : Brydon Coverdale talks to Luke Ronchi, who hopes to play for New Zealand | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

How unseemly.

BoyBrumby · 24-10-2012, 11:05 AM

Think "poised to" is overstating the case slightly. NZ might decide to give him a swerve completely. Keen as they are on converted Saffers/Aussies, none of the imports to have made the full Black Caps sides had already played full internationals for another test nation.

Wonder who the last player to do so was, actually? Wessells would be my guess.

Fuller Pilch · 24-10-2012, 01:16 PM

He would still have to push his way past KVW, Watling, De Boorder and Tom Latham. I'd like to see one of those 4 following a top 6 of:

Rutherford (gamble but a leftie who can score big)
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
McCullum (to be a swashbuckling senior pro at no 5 - ala Astle/McMillan)
Ryder

Mike5181 · 24-10-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuller Pilch

He would still have to push his way past KVW, Watling, De Boorder and Tom Latham. I'd like to see one of those 4 following a top 6 of:

Rutherford (gamble but a leftie who can score big)
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
McCullum (to be a swashbuckling senior pro at no 5 - ala Astle/McMillan)
Ryder

McCullum
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Flynn/Broom/Franklin
Ronchi+

Would be interesting to see how that batting lineup would go.

benchmark00 · 24-10-2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike5181

McCullum
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Flynn/Broom/Franklin
Ronchi+

Would be interesting to see how that batting lineup would go.

They'd go like most NZ batting line ups I'd say - quickly.

Spooony · 24-10-2012, 06:53 PM

Kiwi's really that desperate to cap a 31 year old Aussie looking for a couple of international games before he retires?

Daemon · 24-10-2012, 08:26 PM

So dire how one can just switch countries to get a couple of games under their belt. I have no problems with the players themselves wanting to do it, I understand they want to further their careers, but it just feels wrong.

Bahnz · 24-10-2012, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooony

Kiwi's really that desperate to cap a 31 year old Aussie looking for a couple of international games before he retires?

Have you seen New Zealand's win/loss record over the past 4 years?

straw man · 24-10-2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike5181

McCullum
Guptill
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Flynn/Broom/Franklin
Ronchi+

Would be interesting to see how that batting lineup would go.

Top 6 looks good

(replace Broom with Brownlie though)

Hurricane · 25-10-2012, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benchmark00

They'd go like most NZ batting line ups I'd say - quickly.

1st Test: South Africa v Australia at Cape Town, Nov 9-11, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

benchmark00 · 25-10-2012, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricane

1st Test: South Africa v Australia at Cape Town, Nov 9-11, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Fail to see where NZ are playing in that game?

NUFAN · 25-10-2012, 03:55 AM

Ronchi should make NZ's shorter format teams. Reckon he'd be a success especially at home playing on some of those smaller grounds and it wouldn't be the worst idea having an experienced campaigner like him in the team with the next World Cup obviously being in Australia.

I wouldn't pick him for Test Cricket though. He is capable, but so is Van Wyk.

Spooony · 25-10-2012, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahnz

Have you seen New Zealand's win/loss record over the past 4 years?

Can't blame them for drop in pitches playing 2nd fiddle to rugby. Almost remind me of Australia's poaching of Kiwi's in the rugby but at least if you poach poach a 20 something year old not a 31 year old has been. Leave that to us and our selection policies...

SteveNZ · 25-10-2012, 01:41 PM

Ronchi will have to score truckloads to get in the mix. He's got Ryder/Taylor/Williamson/Guptill/McCullum and probably Franklin ahead of him at this stage. Unless Brendon doesn't want the gloves, then he's a good chance - Watling isn't really a ODI option despite continued selection.

Spooony · 25-10-2012, 11:25 PM

NZ do not need batsman they need a better bowling attack

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,642	Think "poised to" is overstating the case slightly. NZ might decide to give him a swerve completely. Keen as they are on converted Saffers/Aussies, none of the imports to have made the full Black Caps sides had already played full internationals for another test nation. Wonder who the last player to do so was, actually? Wessells would be my guess. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,788	So dire how one can just switch countries to get a couple of games under their belt. I have no problems with the players themselves wanting to do it, I understand they want to further their careers, but it just feels wrong.

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NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,753	Ronchi should make NZ's shorter format teams. Reckon he'd be a success especially at home playing on some of those smaller grounds and it wouldn't be the worst idea having an experienced campaigner like him in the team with the next World Cup obviously being in Australia. I wouldn't pick him for Test Cricket though. He is capable, but so is Van Wyk.

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SteveNZ State Vice-Captain Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 1,298	Ronchi will have to score truckloads to get in the mix. He's got Ryder/Taylor/Williamson/Guptill/McCullum and probably Franklin ahead of him at this stage. Unless Brendon doesn't want the gloves, then he's a good chance - Watling isn't really a ODI option despite continued selection.

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