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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Pretty sure some bowlers confidence and average would have been dented bowling to the likes of Bradman, Morris etc. Look at some of the players first class records. Its no surprise people don't rate them any more. I refuse to believe that Morris 206 wasn't a superb knock.
    I'm sure that it was a superb knock. Any double century is superb by definition because of the endurance it requires. However, we assess ATGs in relative terms.

    Is 206 made during the 4th Test (1951) when Australia is already leading 3 to blot, carry the same value as 130 made during the second Test at Lords (1961) with the first Test drawn?

    Especially as those 130 runs were made against Trueman and Statham trying to knock Lawry's head-off, and McDonald + Simpson back in the pavillion with the score at 6 runs. I can't imagine that Morris was under the same kind of pressure.
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    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    I think inclusion of Morris is lot to do with the fact that not only did he score heavily but by the manner he used to impose domination and his elegant playing style adds to the charm as well
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    Votes so far:

    Partnerships so far:

    Simpson + Lawry (1)
    Simpson + Morris (4)
    Simpson + Trumper (2)
    Trumper + Taylor (1)
    Trumper + Ponsford (1)
    Lawry + Morris (1)
    Morris + Trumper (6)
    Barnes + Trumper (1)
    Trumper + Hayden (2)
    Trumper + Bradman (1)
    Ponsford + Hayden (1)
    Ponsford + Simpson (1)
    Hayden + Taylor (1)
    Simpson + Taylor (1)
    Barnes + Morris (1)

    Individuals so far:

    Simpson (9)
    Lawry (2)
    Morris (12)
    Trumper (13)
    Taylor (3)
    Ponsford (3)
    Barnes (2)
    Hayden (4)
    Bradman (1)
    Last edited by AndyZaltzHair; 19-10-2012 at 03:31 AM.

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    These numbers are conclusive thus far - Morris and Trumper to open.

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    Last edited by watson; 19-10-2012 at 03:37 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyZaltzHair View Post
    Votes so far:

    Partnerships so far:

    Simpson + Lawry (1)
    Simpson + Morris (4)
    Simpson + Trumper (2)
    Trumper + Taylor (1)
    Trumper + Ponsford (1)
    Lawry + Morris (1)
    Morris + Trumper (6)
    Barnes + Trumper (1)
    Trumper + Hayden (2)
    Trumper + Bradman (1)
    Ponsford + Hayden (1)
    Ponsford + Simpson (1)
    Hayden + Taylor (1)
    Simpson + Taylor (1)
    Barnes + Morris (1)

    Individuals so far:

    Simpson (9)
    Lawry (2)
    Morris (12)
    Trumper (13)
    Taylor (3)
    Ponsford (3)
    Barnes (2)
    Hayden (4)
    Bradman (1)
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    These numbers are conclusive thus far - Morris and Trumper to open.

    A triumph of Artistry over Pragmatism.
    Well said. I'll put the middle order options up. I'm guessing Braddles'll be at #3?

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    Team so far

    1. Victor Trumper
    2. Arthur Morris
    3. Don Bradman


    Middle order options (4-6)

    Clem Hill
    Greg Chappell
    Ricky Ponting
    Allan Border
    Neil Harvey
    Stan McCabe
    Doug Walter
    Bill Ponsford
    Steve Waugh
    Charlie Macartney
    Michael Clarke
    Mike Hussey
    Lindsay Hassett
    Keith Miller
    Warwick Armstrong
    Monty Noble


    Select THREE.

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    Legitimately surprised at all the Morris love. Middle order options need more Clem Hill though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Legitimately surprised at all the Morris love. Middle order options need more Clem Hill though.
    Added. Thought I'd put him in. He was on my mind because he's become one of Jager's love children.

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    For me the real debate is whether a fifth "proper" bowler is needed (Miller in all likelihood) or if a better batsman should be included.

    In the end I thought the younger Chappell's mediums and Captain Grumpy's SLAs were decent enough 5th & 6th bowler options in light of who I imagine will fill the bowling positions.
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