Fred Spofforth, 'The Demon Speaks'The figures Sir Home Hordon has shown me of what Grace did in matches against me, 37 innings, 1042 runs, 28.16 average, considerably less than his general average, hears out my theory that I never had any particular difficulty in getting him out. I clean bowled him seven times, ACM Croome says that WG told him that on any wicket he never knew when I should bowl him. This may have been due in part to my artfulness......
But, obviously Simmo brings arguably equal to the side. I'd be happy with either, but I don't think you could have both. For me Tubby's leadership swings it.
I reckon theoretically Trumper would gel with Taylor much like Slater did (only better).
Trumper & Morris for me
Would also like to mention Boon who I'd actually rate ahead of Taylor, Slater, Langer.
I considered putting him in the side but remembered he calls John Howard a friend, and therefore he lacks judgment and any moral compass. Not fit for inclusion.
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Excluding those 18 or so months where Tubby was a walking wicket, he really did bring a calmness and assurance to our batting lineup. I used to like watching his technique during the bowlers run up, just think it was such an easy, classic technique which enabled him to judge the line of the ball perfectly.
On pure batting alone he doesn't make my All Time XI, but when you factor in superb slips catching and captaincy I can the reasoning behind his selection.
Captaincy is an interesting point to consider. What are the vitals of captaincy, besides winning the toss?
- field placement
- timing of declarations
- ability with leading people
Having two or three great bowlers in your line up helps immensely!
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Mark Taylor win in Westindies inflicting their first home series loss was with following bowlers..Warne, McGrath(new to the international scene), Reiffel and Julian..so it was not like he had great bowlers he could call on other than Warne..
Here are the centuries scored by Arthur Morris;
206 V Eng – Adelaide 1951 (Bedser, Warr, Wright, Tattersall)
196 V Eng – The Oval 1948 (Bedser, Watkins, Young, Hollies)
182 V Eng – Leeds 1948 (Bedser, Pollard, Cranston, Laker, Yardley)
157 V SA – Port Elizabeth 1950 (McCarthy, Melle, Tayfield, Mann)
155 V Eng – MCG 1947 (Voce, Bedser, Wright, Yardley)
153 V Eng – Brisbane 1954 (Bedser, Statham, Tyson, Bailey, Edrich)
124 V Eng – Adelaide 1947 (Bedser, Edrich, Wright, Yardley)
122 V Eng – Adelaide 1947 (Bedser, Edrich, Wright, Yardley)
111 V SA – Jo’burg 1950 (McCarthy, Melle, Tayfield, Mann)
111 V WI – Port of Spain 1955 (Butler, King, Ramadhin, Valentine, Sobers)
105 V Eng – Lords 1948 (Bedser, Coxon, Wright, Laker, Yardley)
100 V India – MCG 1948 (Phadkar, Amarnath, Hazare, Mankad)
What I learn from this list is that Arthur Morris flourished against ordinary attacks from 1947-48 when English cricket was still recovering from the war. Indeed, 7/12 of his centuries were scored against ageing/inexperienced attacks. No wonder Alec Bedser took his wicket so many times, he was the only bowler of note for much of Morris's career. In my estimation the only century to write home about is the one made against England in 1954. Bedser, Tyson, Statham, Bailey, and Edrich does seem like a good attack.
If it wasn't for the relatively weak attacks of 1947/48 Arthur Morris would be averaging in the mid-30s. In my opinion this average is a true indication of his ability as an opening batsman. I get the feeling that we have all been duped by Bradman's hyper-inflated rhetoric.
Ergo, in comparison, the 'quality' of runs made by Bill Lawry is significantly better. Centuries made against Hall, Griffith, Trueman, Statham, Pollock, Goddard, Snow and Underwood, and so forth, are all gold tier.
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