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The Aussie Pace Bowling attack

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Lara's been known to 'keep too. That doesn't mean he's any good at it. :P
As did I a week last Sunday. Pulled off a stumping. Ahhh that coaching, I did learn something new! :D (Not stumping, the keeping stance)
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
I doubt very much if Australia will play two spinners
at Adelaide.

I'm not sure Hogg will worry the Indian batsmen ....he'll be good in a short spell i.e in ODI cricket, but I suspect India would take
to him in tests once they have a good look at him.
I think Hogg would be exposed in a test match by a good quality batting lineup.

Mcgill didn't really trouble India -- not that anyone was expecting him to in any case.

Steve Waugh is a battle hardened campaigner who knows India through and through. He's well aware of the fact that none of Australia's spinners are likely to worry India.
Pace is the way !
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
From India's point of view, Sadogopan Ramesh would be quite a
good counter to Nathan Bracken with the new ball.

Sehwag defintely has problems facing Bracken early on, but having seen Nathan in pura cup games for NSW, he does struggle to move the ball away from the left hander.

Ramesh looks to be in pretty good form (based on the leadup games) and the last time he played at Adelaide he saw off the new ball quite well (against a better new ball attack in Fleming and Mcgrath) but threw his wicket away when settled.

People will point to Ramesh's lack of footwork but I don't think his technique is any worse than Sehwag's and he's certainly far more judicous in his shot selection.
 

JohnnyA

U19 12th Man
deeps said:
Brett Lee has declared himself fit for the 2nd test...Assuming that he will be fit, We could drop Bichel and bring in Lee... As much as i think they should drop Bracken and bring in Williams or Inness,i don't see them dropping Bracken...And maybe a good idea,bcoz he brings in variety...

Adelaide oval gives quiet a bit of assistance to the spinners,and i'd like to see Brad Hogg being bought back into the team..He's a decent batsman too...
My XI for adelaide:

M.Hayden
J.Langer
R.Ponting
D.Martyn
S.Waugh
M.Clarke (His bowling has already been proven against india IN india)
B.Hogg
B.Lee
S.Macgill
J.Gillespie
N.Bracken (purely for the variety he offers)

This is a good strong batting line-up...Williams is no bunny with the bat...The Bowling line-up has plenty of variety
A left arm fast,2 Right arm fasts (one which is very fast), A right arm leggy,2 left arm spinners, 2 decent medium pacers (waugh and martyn).
THose 2 spinners might have trouble getting stumpings with NO W/K ;)
 

Kenny

U19 Debutant
Well the Aussies have picked the same 12......I do hope Williams gets a go at the expense of Andy Bichel, who had a terrible TVS cup and a terrible first test.
I think Williams was unlucky to miss out in the first test.
It is difficult to judge MacGill's effectiveness on the gabba pitch - at least, THAT Gabba pitch. I feel he does have the capacity to trouble India's batsman, but we'll see.

Interesting that Lee was overlooked, the selectors obviously want him to prove his fitness over 4 days in the Pura cup. Probably fair enough.
 
I'm not sure Brad Williams has done enough to get back in. He's picked up 4 wickets so far in the Pura Cup match but Tasmania have taken him for a ride, and they're not the greatest batting side. At least on Pura Cup form in comparison with Andy Bichel, Bichel came off a 10 wicket haul.
Add to this Williams is bowling in Perth.
Note, I was going to say 3 wickets but he just picked up a tailender :lol:
 

Kenny

U19 Debutant
furious_ged said:
Yet you could cast an eye down their batting lineup and say 'pass' for most of them.
Cox, DiVenuto, Dighton and Watson aren't bad are they?
I agree with you in a broad sense however......
 
I have a great deal of respect for Cox - when he goes to England.
Dighton I would 'pass' - before seeing that OD innings he played earlier this season. Nevertheless, he would hardly be frightening to bowl to for good bowlers. He's not an overly aggressive batsman yet he tends to lose his wicket early on.
Di Venuto comes in fits and starts. I've not seen him do anything absolutely devastating (though I know he can play the long innings with the pressure on i.e. versus NSW).
Watson impresses me the most. I think he is test material, but he's got a way to go. The problem with his batting is he hasn't played a really long innings yet. Although he is most certainly very impressive.

Now when you match that to Hussey, Rogers, Goodwin, North (given the form they are all in, too)...
*Jaw drops*
 

Linda

International Vice-Captain
WOI WOI WOI to WA. Hahahaha.

Anyway, on the 5 bowlers thing, it just seems like a good idea to me. Especially since it would include 4 pacemen.
And Katich hasnt really fullfilled his bowling duties anyway. He only bowled 2 overs (and they went for 16). And its not as if we need him to bat, we have 6 specialist batsmen, a couple of whom can bowl a bit too, how many more do you need?:lol:
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
furious_ged said:


Now when you match that to Hussey, Rogers, Goodwin, North (given the form they are all in, too)...
*Jaw drops*
Or Maher, Love, Symonds, Law, Perren
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
deeps said:
M.Clarke (His bowling has already been proven against india IN india)
Firstly, that's in ODI's in helpful conditions.
Secondly, you've already selected 2 specialist spinners, so how can you use that aspect of Clarke's game to leapfrog the order of batsmen in line for a place.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
mavric41 said:
You forgot a wicketkeeper. I don't think I would drop Gilchrist after 1 failure.:lol:
Get Clarke to do it on the basis he once took a catch!

(About as logical as putting him in as a spoin bowler)
 

deeps

International 12th Man
marc71178 said:
Firstly, that's in ODI's in helpful conditions.
Secondly, you've already selected 2 specialist spinners, so how can you use that aspect of Clarke's game to leapfrog the order of batsmen in line for a place.
i didn't pick him on the basis of his spin bowling...i picked him because he is a good batsman...his bowling is a bonus... He didn't exaclty leap frog ne1... Perhaps katich i guess...
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
MIchael Clarke may have bowled well against India in a one off ODI.

That's a far cry to doing it in a test match.


I doubt India will lose too much sleep over McGill -- they'll be much more worried over someone like Williams.
 

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