***Official*** South Africa in Australia 2012 - Page 8

benchmark00 · 27-10-2012, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NUFAN

NSW will play Haddin at 6, SOK at 7, the 3 young quicks and Copeland at 8. Copes probably to play to help the batting over Bollinger.

Did I just see NU**** advocate Copes' selection?

NUFAN · 27-10-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chaminda_00

Starc and Cummins are better batsmen, then Copeland.

The fact that Copeland captained the 2nd XI side, tells me he will be the one that misses out. Normally captaining 2nd XI usually means you going to have a stint in until a spot opens up.

So you think if Copeland, Starc and Cummins all play in the same team, Copeland will bat below the other two. No chance.

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Did I just see NU**** advocate Copes' selection?

NSW are playing QLD - in an ideal world Copes plays and goes for 0/100, but with the bunch of Nufs in the QLD lineup, its not realistic.

chaminda_00 · 27-10-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NUFAN

So you think if Copeland, Starc and Cummins all play in the same team, Copeland will bat below the other two. No chance.

You do realise Starc averages 20 plus with the bat and Cummins recently is batting above Starc at 8 or 9 for Australia and the Sixers. Both played as bowling all rounders in juniors and bat higher then Copeland at grade level as well.

AlwaysProteas · 27-10-2012, 12:18 PM

IIRC Pattinson batted decently against the India in their latest series.

benchmark00 · 27-10-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chaminda_00

You do realise Starc averages 20 plus with the bat and Cummins recently is batting above Starc at 8 or 9 for Australia and the Sixers. Both played as bowling all rounders in juniors and bat higher then Copeland at grade level as well.

Copeland was a batsman at junior level if you're going to bring that into it.

chaminda_00 · 27-10-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Copeland was a batsman at junior level if you're going to bring that into it.

Should probably have clarified that as Australian/NSW youth levels, not Grade youth levels.

howardj · 28-10-2012, 01:51 AM

If Haddin is named tomorrow, then the selectors have no testicles

aussie tragic · 28-10-2012, 01:58 AM

Predicitng this will be Australia's next Test Team

1. Cowan
2. Warner
3. Watson
4. Ponting
5. Clarke
6. Hussey
7. Wade
8. Siddle
9. Pattinson
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Lyon
12. Starc

Possible issues....

Cowan has only scored 118 runs @ 23.60 this season with HS of 42 (3 games)
Watson, Hussey & Warner haven't played a FC game since the last Test (april)
Starc yet to play a FC game this season

howardj · 28-10-2012, 02:03 AM

Agree with all that

Cowan is a concern fullstop

He's an absolute journeyman

I don't blame him though as his performance in the international theatre to date is just a reflection of his FC career

robelinda · 28-10-2012, 02:22 AM

That top 3 doesnt inspire confidence, shaky to say the least. Not convinced Watson is a long term test player anymore, just cant bat long enough to be a regular in the top or middle order, no other place for him atm i guess, Hussey aint going anywhere, unless clarke moves to 3 and Watson to 5 or 6, not gonna happen though. Outside chance of Ponting going back to 3, in dominant form right now.

Justo · 28-10-2012, 04:05 AM

Hussey has a very poor record against the South African attack so I wouldn't bank on him too much this series. Ponting, Clarke and Wade could be the mainstay of our batting lineup this series with odd contributions from the rest.

I do think Cowan is a good choice to have against Philander though. More likely to leave those deliveries that have been getting a lot of left handers out over the past year. Warner could really be in trouble this series although I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Spikey · 28-10-2012, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by howardj

I don't blame him though as his performance in the international theatre to date is just a reflection of his FC career

It isn't one respect though - conversion rate. I think he was 15/15 or something before the test debut, and is currently 0/3.

probably not a big deal though

Spark · 28-10-2012, 04:12 AM

Hussey's been shocking against Steyn/Morkel, hasn't he?

EDIT: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=batting

Ouch. Averages <19.

aussie tragic · 28-10-2012, 04:13 AM

Cowans 74 (73 balls) off the Vics making me feel a bit better since its against Pattinson & McKay as well as the Aussie A attack of Hastings, McDonald and Maxwell

chaminda_00 · 28-10-2012, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aussie tragic

Cowans 74 (73 balls) off the Vics making me feel a bit better since its against Pattinson & McKay as well as the Aussie A attack of Hastings, McDonald and Maxwell

It is against Darren Pattinson not James. Still decent knock, though it is on a road, but runs are runs.

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AlwaysProteas U19 12th Man Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Interwebs Posts: 252	IIRC Pattinson batted decently against the India in their latest series.

28-10-2012, 01:58 AM	#113 (permalink)
aussie tragic International Debutant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 2,255	Predicitng this will be Australia's next Test Team 1. Cowan 2. Warner 3. Watson 4. Ponting 5. Clarke 6. Hussey 7. Wade 8. Siddle 9. Pattinson 10. Hilfenhaus 11. Lyon 12. Starc Possible issues.... Cowan has only scored 118 runs @ 23.60 this season with HS of 42 (3 games) Watson, Hussey & Warner haven't played a FC game since the last Test (april) Starc yet to play a FC game this season

28-10-2012, 02:03 AM	#114 (permalink)
howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,107	Agree with all that Cowan is a concern fullstop He's an absolute journeyman I don't blame him though as his performance in the international theatre to date is just a reflection of his FC career

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Justo School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 104	Hussey has a very poor record against the South African attack so I wouldn't bank on him too much this series. Ponting, Clarke and Wade could be the mainstay of our batting lineup this series with odd contributions from the rest. I do think Cowan is a good choice to have against Philander though. More likely to leave those deliveries that have been getting a lot of left handers out over the past year. Warner could really be in trouble this series although I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

28-10-2012, 04:13 AM	#119 (permalink)
aussie tragic International Debutant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 2,255	Cowans 74 (73 balls) off the Vics making me feel a bit better since its against Pattinson & McKay as well as the Aussie A attack of Hastings, McDonald and Maxwell

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