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    Mark Nicholas : Mark Nicholas: Is the no-ball law too exact? | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

    I tend to agree..bowlers should be given the benefit of the doubt in this regard. millimetres r now deciding things...

    what are others thoughts?
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    Like all my thoughts about that topic, it should be the human umpires job. If he thinks it's a no ball he should call it. No need to change the no ball rule (again). Just call it or don't call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    Mark Nicholas : Mark Nicholas: Is the no-ball law too exact? | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfo

    I tend to agree..bowlers should be given the benefit of the doubt in this regard. millimetres r now deciding things...

    what are others thoughts?
    They should do the same as they do in athletics for long jump and tennis. Have electronic measures for the no balls and let technology pick up all no balls. Let the umpire have all their focus at the main end of pitch.

    Never understood why they are still relying on umpires to pick up no balls, when technology can pick it up.

    It should be exact and not rely on the human eye.

    A millimeter over is millimeter, just get behind the line, it is not that hard. Plenty of bowlers have gone their whole career with little no ball issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    They should do the same as they do in athletics for long jump and tennis. Have electronic measures for the no balls and let technology pick up all no balls. Let the umpire have all their focus at the main end of pitch.

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    i wouldn't mind that, at least there'd be consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    They should do the same as they do in athletics for long jump and tennis. Have electronic measures for the no balls and let technology pick up all no balls. Let the umpire have all their focus at the main end of pitch.

    Never understood why they are still relying on umpires to pick up no balls, when technology can pick it up.

    It should be exact and not rely on the human eye.

    A millimeter over is millimeter, just get behind the line, it is not that hard. Plenty of bowlers have gone their whole career with little no ball issues.
    See, that's the point. How do you know?

    Professional sport is entertainment, going back and checking on no balls after the celebration takes away my viewing enjoyment, it's just annoying. Can't be that hard for the umpire to tell.
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    Judging from my experience as a blind cricket umpire (about 10 years ago now) it really is easy to tell if someone is bowling a no ball or not.

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    It's a tricky issue and I think benchmark has it spot on. Cricket is supposed to be a platform to entertain. Checking for the no-ball removes all the excitement from the wicket.

    Clear no-balls should be detected by the umpire; anything else (i.e marginal) I'm happy for the umpire to make the call on the spot.

    The current system is too forgiving on umpires. We are working towards the stage whereby a third of all wickets are now checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Judging from my experience as a blind cricket umpire (about 10 years ago now) it really is easy to tell if someone is bowling a no ball or not.
    Were they ever disappointed with LBW decisions?

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    Yeah I agree. When no balls are referred it's usually so marginal that it barely gives the bowler any sort of advantage, there's no point being so exact about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    See, that's the point. How do you know?

    Professional sport is entertainment, going back and checking on no balls after the celebration takes away my viewing enhancement, it's just annoying. Can't be that hard for the umpire to tell.
    Well a lot of bowlers used and still do bowl so their toe hits the front line, rather then their heal. Those are bowlers that had little issues with no balls. It really is just a training thing and mental thing for bowlers. You know because in the for the last 10 years, every time a wicket has been taken off a no ball, they replay the no ball 10 times.

    I agree that is is annoying as hell when a they check no balls. That is why they should all be done by technology the same way the do for long jumps and tennis. So you know straight away if someone has no balled and the umpire can focus on the key area of pitch.

    It is difficult for umpire to pick up no balls with level of accuracy required in the modern game, with the human eye. The issue for modern umpire will always be every decision gets analysed. So if there is opportunity with technology to get decision right, why not use it, if it doesn't slow down the game.

    Just to make it clear I don't agree with the current way they are picking up no balls, after the wickets have been taken. It needs to be done as soon as the ball is bowled, like they do in other sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    They should do the same as they do in athletics for long jump and tennis. Have electronic measures for the no balls and let technology pick up all no balls. Let the umpire have all their focus at the main end of pitch.
    I'd be similar but say the 3rd umpire takes them in real time, and passes on via the radio. If an umpire is only concentrating on one end of the pitch, it must surely be so much easier a job?
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