***Official*** South Africa in Australia 2012 - Page 163

Briony · 13-11-2012, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heboric

I wonder how many times the words "momentum" and "psychological edge" will be used/ misused in the Australian media outlets - probably a lot I reckon

Australia looked the better team but SA rarely plays two shockers in a row.

morgieb · 13-11-2012, 12:36 AM

Player ratings:

Smith: 3 - fairly forgettable really.
Petersen: 6 - hit a decent half-century, but he'd like to forget that second innings quickly.
Amla: 8 - gun dig in the first innings, but didn't make it a huge one.
Kalls: 9 - should've bowled more. Gun batting however.
de Villiers: 6 - decent dig to stop any hope of Australian victory in the third innings. However, should they really have him keeping?
Rudolph: 3 - forgettable.
Duminy: n/a - sadly injured before he could anything.
Philander: 1 - failed to take a wicket and had real no-ball problems.
Steyn: 3 - generally ineffective.
Kleinveldt: 0.5 - awful debut, likely to be a one-test wonder.
Morkel: 5 - at least asked questions to some extent.

Cowan: 9 - excellent maiden ton, loses a mark for how he got out though.
Warner: 1 - eh....
Quiney: 2 - great 9.
Ponting: 0 - and he even showed good domestic form too

Clarke: 10 - wow.
Hussey: 8.5 - not the hardest place to bat, but the aggression was great.
Wade: 4 - not that impressed. Keeping seemed rusty, and batted fairly slowly which could have made a big difference.
Lyon: 5 - saved himself by a couple of last-minute wickets, but seemed very weak for ages.
Siddle: 5 - bowled with some decent fire at times and probably should've gotten more wickets.
Hilfenhaus: 3 - kept it tight but seemed innocuous.
Pattinson: 7 - pick of the bowlers in very tough circumstances.

Heboric · 13-11-2012, 12:37 AM

Well the Proteas darn well better make some changes.

Faf, Tahir and even maybe Elgar for Rudolph must come in

Satyanash89 · 13-11-2012, 12:56 AM

Was saying before the test itself that rudolph is a bit of a liability... Faf needs to be given a chance now methinks... he's got a good head, and if he comes in when the team's score is already massive, he has the ability to really step up the run rate. Pretty awesome fielder too... this change is mandatory for SA in the next test imo

Daemon · 13-11-2012, 12:59 AM

Harris v Tahir v Botha. Are there really no better spinners in SA atm?

Briony · 13-11-2012, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon

Harris v Tahir v Botha. Are there really no better spinners in SA atm?

Yes bowling cupboard appears a little bare.

morgieb · 13-11-2012, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon

Harris v Tahir v Botha. Are there really no better spinners in SA atm?

It's South Africa, what do you expect?

Daemon · 13-11-2012, 01:27 AM

What makes it even worse is one didn't even develop his cricket in South Africa and the other chucks. Which leaves us with the horrible douchebag that is Paul Harris.

Heboric · 13-11-2012, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

What makes it even worse is one didn't even develop his cricket in South Africa and the other chucks. Which leaves us with the horrible douchebag that is Paul Harris.

"the horrible douchebag" did take over 100 test wickets and did what he was picked for - for the most part.

People always conveniently forget this

Plus Botha's action has been cleared so he doesnt chuck, so careful with these uninformed outbursts

TT Boy · 13-11-2012, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon

Harris v Tahir v Botha. Are there really no better spinners in SA atm?

Botha plays in Australia and Harris doesn't have a CSA contract, so not sure how it is Tahir versus either of them.

Jono · 13-11-2012, 01:41 AM

Yeah I agree with Heboric. Harris did what SA asked of him. Tahir doesn't.

jan · 13-11-2012, 01:46 AM

Is the flat pitch to be blamed or SA bowled poorly? Fat Vernon surely didnt impress...

Top_Cat · 13-11-2012, 01:47 AM

Botha bowling alright at the moment too.

Daemon · 13-11-2012, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heboric

"the horrible douchebag" did take over 100 test wickets and did what he was picked for - for the most part.

People always conveniently forget this

Plus Botha's action has been cleared so he doesnt chuck, so careful with these uninformed outbursts

Nah, I'm not bagging Harris' bowling, I just don't like him.

Botha's probably the best cricketer of the three imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TT Boy

Botha plays in Australia and Harris doesn't have a CSA contract, so not sure how it is Tahir versus either of them.

They're all eligible for selection though.

TT Boy · 13-11-2012, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon

Nah, I'm not bagging Harris' bowling, I just don't like him.

Botha's probably the best cricketer of the three imo.

They're all eligible for selection though.

Botha isn't.

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13-11-2012, 12:37 AM	#2433 (permalink)
Heboric School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Africa Posts: 155	Well the Proteas darn well better make some changes. Faf, Tahir and even maybe Elgar for Rudolph must come in

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Satyanash89 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pune, India Posts: 816	Was saying before the test itself that rudolph is a bit of a liability... Faf needs to be given a chance now methinks... he's got a good head, and if he comes in when the team's score is already massive, he has the ability to really step up the run rate. Pretty awesome fielder too... this change is mandatory for SA in the next test imo

13-11-2012, 12:59 AM	#2435 (permalink)
Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,742	Harris v Tahir v Botha. Are there really no better spinners in SA atm?

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Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,742	What makes it even worse is one didn't even develop his cricket in South Africa and the other chucks. Which leaves us with the horrible douchebag that is Paul Harris.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,470	Yeah I agree with Heboric. Harris did what SA asked of him. Tahir doesn't.

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