Tom Latham vs Hamish Rutherford

Hurricane · 04-10-2012, 02:21 AM

Who will make the test team first:

Tom Latham | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

Hamish Rutherford | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

HeathDavisSpeed · 04-10-2012, 02:23 AM

Tom Latham.

Mike5181 · 04-10-2012, 02:30 AM

Neither should be near the test team at this stage in their careers.

BackFootPunch · 04-10-2012, 02:32 AM

Latham will probably debut first I guess although it won't be as an opener. If Guptill continues to stink up the opening spot then Rutherford should get a crack.

Dan · 04-10-2012, 02:48 AM

From the footage I've seen of Latham he looks talented, but definitely not ready to play Tests. He'll get in the side pretty soon though, IMO. Wouldn't be far off playing in the middle order.

Rutherford, again from what I've seen, looks inconsistent and his technique doesn't appear to be fantastic. I'm guessing he's a bit of a confidence player - if he makes a start he'll keep going, but if the bowler picks up on the holes in his technique, he'd be gone early. Like an opening version of Marcus North.

Hurricane · 04-10-2012, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike5181

Neither should be near the test team at this stage in their careers.

No doubt, but in a year or two. Who will make it first. Make a prediction.

BackFootPunch · 04-10-2012, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvd619323

From the footage I've seen of Latham he looks talented, but definitely not ready to play Tests. He'll get in the side pretty soon though, IMO. Wouldn't be far off playing in the middle order.

Rutherford, again from what I've seen, looks inconsistent and his technique doesn't appear to be fantastic. I'm guessing he's a bit of a confidence player - if he makes a start he'll keep going, but if the bowler picks up on the holes in his technique, he'd be gone early. Like an opening version of Marcus North.

Bang on re Rutherford. If he gets on top it's carnage.

SteveNZ · 04-10-2012, 03:32 AM

It's Tom Latham, no question. He's already in the set-up. Very few - none I can actually think of - players who score FC double hundreds don't play subsequently for NZ..so Rutherford must be a good chance.

Prince EWS · 04-10-2012, 04:40 AM

Both will play well before they're ready, be found out at international level and end up stuck in no man's land between Plunket Shield quality and Test quality, frustrated at the lack of opportunity to play a level of cricket that they're neither too good for or not good enough for.

(Yes, I do realise that's not even remotely a big call)

I think Latham will have some ODI success though if they don't move him up and down the order repeatedly or occasionally ask him to keep wicket.

straw man · 04-10-2012, 04:42 AM

Latham will make the test side first, because he's already debuted in another format and we are more likely to have a middle-order spot available (it feels weird saying that after years where the top 3 were always hopeless, but unless Guptill is really bad for a long period and someone is bashing the door down I'd be reluctant to resume the top-order merry-go-round). Latham's technique looks pretty suspect to me though. I've seen less of Rutherford's batting but liked what I've seen so far, so that's why I predicted he'd outscore Latham this season.

Mike5181 · 04-10-2012, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurricane

No doubt, but in a year or two. Who will make it first. Make a prediction.

Latham will definitely debut first.

uvelocity · 04-10-2012, 05:38 AM

luke ronchi

straw man · 04-10-2012, 05:41 AM

good suggestion for poll joke option

uvelocity · 04-10-2012, 06:26 AM

good trivia answer one day too

Immenso · 04-10-2012, 02:40 PM

I watched a bit of Rutherford's inning yesterday on the live stream. I was actually quite impressed with what I saw.

The reason I should be impressed, was my pre-conceptions are I was still a bit doubtful about him - based on my impression of watching his double ton last season on the pooch player (a limited base to make judgements). My impression of his 200 was he was a bit streaky. Should have been out golden duck to Kuggeleijn, and then seemed to score 75% of his runs smacking the ball in an arc from third man to mid-off, with not much foot movement.

Yesterday I thought he looked good. Fairly sold in defence, and he played some lovely straight, and off drives.

04-10-2012, 02:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hurricane International Captain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 7,349	Tom Latham vs Hamish Rutherford Who will make the test team first: Tom Latham \| Cricket Players and Officials \| ESPN Cricinfo Hamish Rutherford \| Cricket Players and Officials \| ESPN Cricinfo __________________ Munro watch: Auckland 47,103, 27, 269*, 59, 118 Tests 0,15

04-10-2012, 04:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Prince EWS Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 37,686	Both will play well before they're ready, be found out at international level and end up stuck in no man's land between Plunket Shield quality and Test quality, frustrated at the lack of opportunity to play a level of cricket that they're neither too good for or not good enough for. (Yes, I do realise that's not even remotely a big call) I think Latham will have some ODI success though if they don't move him up and down the order repeatedly or occasionally ask him to keep wicket. __________________ ~ Cribbage

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04-10-2012, 02:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mike5181 International Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: City of Sails Posts: 3,381	Neither should be near the test team at this stage in their careers.

04-10-2012, 02:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
BackFootPunch State 12th Man Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 700	Latham will probably debut first I guess although it won't be as an opener. If Guptill continues to stink up the opening spot then Rutherford should get a crack.

04-10-2012, 02:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dan Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,071	From the footage I've seen of Latham he looks talented, but definitely not ready to play Tests. He'll get in the side pretty soon though, IMO. Wouldn't be far off playing in the middle order. Rutherford, again from what I've seen, looks inconsistent and his technique doesn't appear to be fantastic. I'm guessing he's a bit of a confidence player - if he makes a start he'll keep going, but if the bowler picks up on the holes in his technique, he'd be gone early. Like an opening version of Marcus North.

04-10-2012, 03:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
SteveNZ State Vice-Captain Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 1,298	It's Tom Latham, no question. He's already in the set-up. Very few - none I can actually think of - players who score FC double hundreds don't play subsequently for NZ..so Rutherford must be a good chance.

04-10-2012, 04:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
straw man International Vice-Captain Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l Posts: 4,885	Latham will make the test side first, because he's already debuted in another format and we are more likely to have a middle-order spot available (it feels weird saying that after years where the top 3 were always hopeless, but unless Guptill is really bad for a long period and someone is bashing the door down I'd be reluctant to resume the top-order merry-go-round). Latham's technique looks pretty suspect to me though. I've seen less of Rutherford's batting but liked what I've seen so far, so that's why I predicted he'd outscore Latham this season.

04-10-2012, 05:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
straw man International Vice-Captain Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l Posts: 4,885	good suggestion for poll joke option

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uvelocity Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: seamy road Posts: 8,233	good trivia answer one day too

04-10-2012, 02:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Immenso U19 Debutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 384	I watched a bit of Rutherford's inning yesterday on the live stream. I was actually quite impressed with what I saw. The reason I should be impressed, was my pre-conceptions are I was still a bit doubtful about him - based on my impression of watching his double ton last season on the pooch player (a limited base to make judgements). My impression of his 200 was he was a bit streaky. Should have been out golden duck to Kuggeleijn, and then seemed to score 75% of his runs smacking the ball in an arc from third man to mid-off, with not much foot movement. Yesterday I thought he looked good. Fairly sold in defence, and he played some lovely straight, and off drives.

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