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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Except he was comparing Patel and Monty.
    Yeah he might as well have said that Meaker was likely to be more a more threatening seam bowling option than Trott.
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    India right on top now, all up to whether their spinners can deliver.

    Reckon I was bang on about Panesar playing. These are two spinner pitches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Except he was comparing Patel and Monty.
    I was.

    I also said I would have a four man attack with two spinners and two pace options and a proper 6, not Patel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah he might as well have said that Meaker was likely to be more a more threatening seam bowling option than Trott.
    One has 143 wickets, the other has 3.

    I know which one I'd rather in my side!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NasserFan207 View Post
    India right on top now, all up to whether their spinners can deliver.

    Reckon I was bang on about Panesar playing. These are two spinner pitches.
    The pitches weren't much different last time and he still got spanked. As do most spinners of Panesar's quality in India.
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.


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    Not that many seamers do much better, mind. But let's not pretend that throwing in a middling finger-spinner is any kind of a solution to the dominance of India's batting at home. Those guys almost always just get eaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD View Post
    One has 143 wickets, the other has 3.

    I know which one I'd rather in my side!
    I really hope you're being obtuse for the sake of it here. Might as well drop Bell for Onions too I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Why is everyone slagging off Bresnan?

    Broad was just as bad today if not worse yet gets away free from criticism.
    Probably because he was crap in the South African series as well.

    Broad at least had moments there. Doesn't look fit here however.

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    Broad was nowhere as bad really, even in this test. He was comfortably the most economical of England's pacers going into the third session and still has a reasonable ER of 4.1 in contrast to Bresnan's 5.6.

    Besides, Broad actually looked threatening when he maintained a wicket-to-wicket length and piled the pressure on. Yes, he really should not have bowled the 5-6 freebies that he did, but in contrast to Bresnan, he had a far superior day. Bresnan taking 0-56 in 10 flatters him really. He was the one who really let Sehwag get in by bowling a massive amount of lollipops to him. Sehwag's first sixty runs or so included 32 of 19 balls from Bresnan.
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    Much talk will surround the exclusion of Panesar, and the way Swann has bowled it could be a justifiable claim. Swann was excellent today. Personally speaking I'm not a fan of two seamers and two spinners, nor would I have been keen to see us go in with five specialist bowlers. By process of elimination I was happy with the side selected, but was disappointed in Bresnan, who looked well down on pace and was treated disdainfully at times by Sehwag.

    Sehwag proved today he can still do it, and it was no surprise, these pitches are perfect for Sehwag, no movement through the air or off the deck for the quicks allowing him to spank it with authority through the line.

    Pujara too looked good and deserved to be not out overnight. England will be disappointed again with the chances/half-chances that have gone down again. Prior's down the legside off Sehwag was a stiff one, but he'll be disappointed, Trott should have snaffled one at slip, Prior's missed stumping, that fortunately wasn't costly, was probably the easiest opportunity.

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    I found the England fielding to be rather sloppy today. Too many diving fielders who "just" missed the ball or failed to take the ball first grab.

    Indian outfield; however it looked relatively smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I really hope you're being obtuse for the sake of it here. Might as well drop Bell for Onions too I suppose.
    I am not being obtuse.

    Monty is clearly a better bowler than Patel. This wicket needs to spinners, Monty is our second best spinner and should be playing.

    Patel is a poor batsman and I'd rather see youth get a chance with Bairstow who has done well when used recently and is the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD View Post
    Monty is clearly a better bowler than Patel.
    Yes and Meaker is a better bowler than Trott but it's not the bloody point. No-one in their right mind would suggest Patel was the better bowler; you're making a straw man out of the selectors.

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    I think both Bresnan and Broad have been abysmal for a while now, much to my own chagrin with regards to Broad as he genuinely looked like a world class bowler during the 2011 summer. There should be question marks asked with regards to fitness of all of the bowlers, all three (including Anderson) were at one point or another bowling in the high 80s to low 90s mph mark during the careers and none of them have been able to reach anywhere near that pace for over a year now.

    I also think that England need to rethink their thought process when making their bowling selections in the subcontinent as, excluding the rather unlikely scenario of a green top, it makes little sense to select 3 fast bowlers let alone two of them that have been under a fitness cloud for a while. Given that Finn was out, England's best bet was Panesar for this match, for the sole reason that in these conditions he could have at least held an end up for most of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yes and Meaker is a better bowler than Trott but it's not the bloody point. No-one in their right mind would suggest Patel was the better bowler; you're making a straw man out of the selectors.
    Well I think the selectors have got it wrong, so I will criticise them!



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