***Official*** England in India - Page 671

Cevno · 27-01-2013, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

Taking overs off bhuv imo.

Not that this will last 50 overs though..

And then he brings BK back...

Cabinet96 · 27-01-2013, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Howe_zat

A pleasant gift from Dhoni to bowl some more Yuvraj when Jadeja is already the 5th bowler, and a much better left-arm spinner.

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Dhoni working on the theory every English batsman is Pietersen, IMHO.

England did a horrific job of handling Yuvraj in the T20's, and have played Jadeja terribly all series. Was probably worth giving him a couple of overs.

Just because Jadeja and Yuvraj are the 5th and 6th bowlers, doesn't mean they're going to be the most expensive and the ones we play the best.

Jadjea 4 overs for 9 runs as I type

Cevno · 27-01-2013, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cabinet96

England did a horrific job of handling Yuvraj in the T20's, and have played Jadeja terribly all series. Was probably worth giving him a couple of overs.

Just because Jadeja and Yuvraj are the 5th and 6th bowlers, doesn't mean they're going to be the most expensive and the ones we play the best.

Jadjea 4 overs for 9 runs as I type

Don't think there was anything wrong in the strategy of bringing on the 6th bowler personally, but after having barely bowled Yuvraj for 2 series now to expect him to straight up come and bowl a couple of tight overs wasn't the best decision.

Should have maybe brought on Raina who he has used more.

Cevno · 27-01-2013, 03:43 AM

Jadeja!

What was that from Root ?

Howe_zat · 27-01-2013, 03:43 AM

Powerplays

As much a weapon for the batting side as a gun that only points downwards

stumpski · 27-01-2013, 03:45 AM

And Jadeja's good series continues ...

And here's Eoin Morgan, the 'finisher' who - as the TMS comm has just said, "has been finishing prematurely."

Cabinet96 · 27-01-2013, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Given Bres is fit enough to bowl here, has he just been dropped for NZ? Hardly a ringed endorsement of Meaker in any event.

I don't think his elbow issues are really an injury though are they? More of a thing that has happened him and meant he's not at his best. I'm sure he could continue playing like it is, but England just felt that with the Champions Trophy and double Ashes bill coming they'd be better off if they could try and get him back to his best and examining it. England obviously decided that even with his elbow meaning he isn't as good as he was 18 months ago, that he would still do a better job than Meaker.

BoyBrumby · 27-01-2013, 03:50 AM

At what point should we get a little twitchy here?

Ha, leg-side half-volley from Ishant on cue.

stumpski · 27-01-2013, 03:52 AM

Another tie-break taking priority for me atm. Still got TMS on though.

No need to worry just yet.

Howe_zat · 27-01-2013, 04:00 AM

This has slowly become a fine innings from Bell. He's scored at a run a ball since I had a go at him on 40 off 76.

grecian · 27-01-2013, 04:01 AM

Hmm, so Bell has thrown a spanner in the works, if we keep him as opener what happens with KP and Trott. I'd still rather KP opened, but don't see it happening now.

Cabinet96 · 27-01-2013, 04:02 AM

1. Cook
2. Bell
3. Trott
4. KP
5. Morgan
6. Buttler

Simple.

stumpski · 27-01-2013, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cabinet96

1. Cook
2. Bell
3. Trott
4. KP
5. Morgan
6. Buttler

Simple.

Agree with that, even though Root has done more to justify his place than Morgan in this series.

Howe_zat · 27-01-2013, 04:08 AM

Nah, open with your best aggressive batsman and that's KP for me. Bell has done well today but beforehand he'd had a poor series - we know he's a capable but not all that impressive ODI bat, no more, no less. If there isn't room in the top order for him then so be it.

Between him and Root for the no.4 berth right now, afaic. No doubt both will get a few chances in the upcoming unimportant ODIs, including in the top three so there's no real need to draw conclusions now, especially not when this series in particular has less meaning than most given where it is.

Cabinet96 · 27-01-2013, 04:12 AM

There's no way Flower will drop Bell back down the order. And one series isn't enough for Root to replace our best ODI player.

That being said, I still think Bell is better off trying to smash it at the top of the order, particularly in England.

27-01-2013, 03:43 AM	#10055 (permalink)
Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,912	Powerplays As much a weapon for the batting side as a gun that only points downwards __________________ Maybe we wouldn't be so quick to fill buckets with filth if we knew they had a soul. Or maybe that's what they're into. Ain't no way to get inside a bucket's mind.

27-01-2013, 03:50 AM	#10058 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,658	At what point should we get a little twitchy here? Ha, leg-side half-volley from Ishant on cue. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

27-01-2013, 04:01 AM	#10061 (permalink)
grecian International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hanging on ! Posts: 11,314	Hmm, so Bell has thrown a spanner in the works, if we keep him as opener what happens with KP and Trott. I'd still rather KP opened, but don't see it happening now. __________________ Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes. Walt Whitman

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Cabinet96 International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London, England Posts: 4,139	There's no way Flower will drop Bell back down the order. And one series isn't enough for Root to replace our best ODI player. That being said, I still think Bell is better off trying to smash it at the top of the order, particularly in England.

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