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    His stats say he isn't a good one day player tbf.

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    His technique doesn't look as tight as it did when he made his debut in England.

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    They have made him sit on the bench without playing him for like the last 6/7 months or even more. This has meant he hasn't been able to play FC or domestic cricket either and the odd match he has played, has been a failure too.

    He isn't in good form probably due to that reason, isn't a opener, and ODI isn't his best format. He was moving forward well in England, but now looks so hesitant in conditions which are moving less. And when he gets past that because he can't take singles to start his innings as the field is up, he starts playing weird shots.

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    CK opening is madness, Bell and KP have done well there recently, and Bell has been poor down the order his entire career.

    I suppose in an ideal world, CK and Jos wouldn't be playing for the same county, but I'm conflicted because they're both big parts in Somerset trying to win stuff (which is an odd concept, but one that is strived for). Both are very good domestically in limited overs, and CK is one of our best County batsmen.

    Ideally I'd like CK gotten rid of from the English one-day scene, give up the gloves for Buttler, and really try to become a solid Test player, because in the end that maybe his best chance of an England career. This would also help Buttler, obviously.
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    Rahane is out of form at present, hasn't done so well this season, and let's face it, he's still some way away from being capable against international quality bowling. This is where, contrary to popular belief, IPL will help him a lot. I wouldn't want him to play in T20Is, but he can definitely improve as an ODI opener, and changing him at this stage doesn't serve much of a purpose- but definitely, the thrust on youth has got to end, and they should opt for seasoned professionals (Kaif, Mazumdar, Manhas) when they assemble the rest of the side. He's got two more chances in the series, but he'll need a Jadeja-style princely run to be established as an India player.

    EDIT: Thought I'll add this in. What more does Pankaj Singh have to do to play for India? He's as tall as Ishant, stronger and faster than Ishant, a more capable fielder than Ishant and most importantly, in better form. An attack of Pankaj-Umesh-Shami or Pankaj-Shami-Bhuvi would be really strong. India are fielding a weaker attack without him.
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    Pankaj Singh is getting Badrinath'd! Actually even worse. Atleast Badri got some matches.

    Badrinath should be so in the test squad even now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Pankaj Singh is getting Badrinath'd! Actually even worse. Atleast Badri got some matches.

    Badrinath should be so in the test squad even now.
    Maybe Pankaj Singh, like Badri, Mazumdar and Manhas, didn't fake his age. When selections favour those younger, it's an incentive to fudge age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Broad is a given to bowl in the CT if fit. With him, Bresnan is still one of precious few seamers we have to have done well at the death on more than a handful of occasions, and given that Anderson, Woakes and the like would be best suited to bowling out in the first 35. Need him back on song asap, really. Meaker perhaps has the raw skills if he kicks on in the early season.

    Past that, there's, erm, hm

    Bring back Sidebottom
    Broad is our best death bowler.

    Bowling at the death - last four overs
    (just done the fast bowlers around the England team at the moment)

    140.1-2-1070-50 (21.40 econ 7.63 s/r 16.8) - Anderson
    80.4-1-547-33 (16.57 econ 6.78 s/r 14.6) - Broad
    64.3-0-492-23 (21.39 econ 7.62 s/r 16.8) - Bresnan
    28.1-2-231-12 (19.25 econ 8.20 s/r 14.0) - Dernbach
    27.1-0-223-10 (22.30 econ 8.21 s/r 16.3) - Finn
    4.2-0-36-4 (9.00 econ 8.31 s/r 6.5 - Woakes
    3-0-35-0 (econ 11.66) - Meaker

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    Have you done that manually or with a statsguru query?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    Have you done that manually or with a statsguru query?
    You can't StatsGuru that; she's either lifted it from somewhere else or done it manually.

    It's interesting that Dernbach isn't even much chop in his specialist role. Interesting but not surprising.
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    Yeah cheers for that, demonstrates it well. The only way ODI bowling stats can be useful is if you separate them into each "period" of an ODI dig the so it's a crying shame Statsguru can't do it. Obviously easier said than done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    Have you done that manually or with a statsguru query?
    Manually.

    Looks like there maybe two changes in the next ODI. Kieswetter and Dernbach? Will Giles give Woakes another go or try Meaker?

    Thursday the Test team for NZ is announced.
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    India's ranked no 1 in ODIs after winning only 3 of last 6 matches. The whole world must be crapping hard in ODIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    India's ranked no 1 in ODIs after winning only 3 of last 6 matches. The whole world must be crapping hard in ODIs.
    Nah, the teams at the top of the rankings are all fairly evenly matched so a couple of wins are enough to change the rankings.

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    Good news about Buttler it looks like although he needs more than one or two games and Matt Prior is starting to creep back into press reports. **** no.

    Should India win this game I reckon both boards will agree to cancel the last game.



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