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Old 13-11-2012, 12:16 PM   #751 (permalink)
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Can't say I rate Patel's bowling much, I think giving the Indians a spinner of his ilk to face would be playing into their hands. Hope he proves me wrong, but I'd rather he not bowl more than a handful of overs each game.
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Old 13-11-2012, 12:16 PM   #752 (permalink)
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Panesar wasn't so bad in the UAE so it could be that given the right pitches he might click
Was up against Pakistan. That's the key difference. They can't play him for toffee, India can.

Panesar is purely a horses for courses guy because he bowls almost entirely the same way regardless of anything else.
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Old 13-11-2012, 12:37 PM   #753 (permalink)
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England have missed a trick by not including Napier in the Test squad! He's is the kind of player that has a T20 hundred and can pack a punch, SR is absolutely essential these days to being a top quality test batsman Napier would have given you guys that impetus! Looking at your top order that is now lacking!
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Old 13-11-2012, 12:40 PM   #754 (permalink)
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Old 13-11-2012, 12:40 PM   #755 (permalink)
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England have missed a trick by not including Napier in the Test squad! He's is the kind of player that has a T20 hundred and can pack a punch, SR is absolutely essential these days to being a top quality test batsman Napier would have given you guys that impetus! Looking at your top order that is now lacking!
Good point, welcome to the site :0

I agree TBH, him and Trego are clearly what we need, bit of blackwell too, and we'd be sorted. It's clearly the masterplan.
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Old 13-11-2012, 12:57 PM   #756 (permalink)
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Good point, welcome to the site :0

I agree TBH, him and Trego are clearly what we need, bit of blackwell too, and we'd be sorted. It's clearly the masterplan.
Tbf, we could have done with Trego this summer.

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Old 13-11-2012, 12:57 PM   #757 (permalink)
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He can't be surely. I'mma gonna go check something.

And Grecian Trego ain't gonna be in the test team anytime soon (Trego to be picked for the NZ tour now ofc) although he should have picked up some LO recognition.
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Old 13-11-2012, 01:01 PM   #758 (permalink)
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Got to be Monty over Patel.

They are spinners and picked primarily to get wickets. Monty is much more likely to do that!
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Got to be Monty over Patel.

They are spinners and picked primarily to get wickets. Monty is much more likely to do that!
Patel is a top 7 batsmen, not a player primarily to get wickets.

If you went in with Panesar over Patel, you'd have Bres at 7 and Broad at 8. For a side whose main concern is their dodgy batting in Asia, that's a heck of a long tail.
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Why would I be joking about a player of the calibre of Napier?? The guy has a T20 hundred at Chlemsford! As I say he knows how to pack a punch!

Cook may get some runs if he gets past the new ball but he's going to do it with a slow strike rate and I feel that we will always be able to control the game with him there! That is why England really could do with picking a Napier type player as SR in the modern game is as essential ingredient to being a complete player.
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Cook
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Prior
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Swann - I just feel he's a sizeably better payer of spin than Broad tbh.
Broad
Anderson

Is the XI I reckon they'll go with tbh.

@YPathan: We do not need Napier the guy isn't much cop in FC to get onto the tour and a T20 hundred proves nothing as to whether the player is test class.

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Old 13-11-2012, 01:12 PM   #763 (permalink)
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Cook
Dennis
Trott
KP
Bell
Patel
Prior
Bresnan
Swann - I just feel he's a sizeably better payer of spin than Broad tbh.
Broad
Anderson

Is the XI I reckon they'll go with tbh.
Yeah, suspect that's the XI they'll go with. Moving Swann ahead of Broad is far to a radical move for them though.
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Yeah, suspect that's the XI they'll go with. Moving Swann ahead of Broad is far to a radical move for them though.
Yeah although for my money I feel that Swann's the better batsman anyway Broad's a bit more like a Brett Lee sort in that he can bat and he can bat well but he's not a bowling all-rounder in the way I'd say Swann is (at least was in the domestic)
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Yeah although for my money I feel that Swann's the better batsman anyway Broad's a bit more like a Brett Lee sort in that he can bat and he can bat well but he's not a bowling all-rounder in the way I'd say Swann is (at least was in the domestic)
Napier's bowling touches on 90 MPH that coupled with his ability to hit a long ball make it a real mystery why England have not decided to go with a batsman of his undoubted stature based on SR he was signed by Mumbai Indians! Not many guys in the England team managed a gig in IPL so it says a lot about his stature in the game!
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