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    Well, he might be a player who doesn't care about Tests. At least from his statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Simpler times, those. Sachin and Sehwag were playing well. Zaheer was playing well. With the first two definitely declining, not in effort, but in skill and the latter taking a massive hit in the fitness and pace department, this team lost 25% of its juice. It's the other guys I am talking about here (apart form Pujara).
    Who are those? Yuvraj clearly cares about Test cricket - he just sucks at it. Gambhir does as well. Kohli - he's one of the few people to come out of an overseas tour with any positives....

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Who are those? Yuvraj clearly cares about Test cricket - he just sucks at it. Gambhir does as well. Kohli - he's one of the few people to come out of an overseas tour with any positives....
    Kohli seems to care only about himself and his hero, Tendulkar, to be honest. Just ask yourself, how many of the Indian team members look as happy as Cook, Pietersen, Monty, Swann, Finn etc. while playing/taking a wicket/scoring a 50 and so on?

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    I'm not a great believer of loading the team with extra batsmen because of previous batting failure of the team. I would like to see India going for the kill and play 4 proper bowlers in addition of Jadeja as extra 5th and think he is capable of handling 6th spot. As much as I would like to see Rahane in the team but this would be my team selection-

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    Pujara
    SRT
    Kohli
    Jadeja
    Dhoni
    Ashwin
    Chawla/Ishant
    Awana
    Ojha
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Who are those? Yuvraj clearly cares about Test cricket - he just sucks at it. Gambhir does as well. Kohli - he's one of the few people to come out of an overseas tour with any positives....
    Yuvraj should never have been recalled, Gambhir is lucky to be in the side still and Kohli is a good player who is one of many hopelessly out of form in this series. Apart from that Harsh has a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Kohli seems to care only about himself and his hero, Tendulkar, to be honest. Just ask yourself, how many of the Indian team members look as happy as Cook, Pietersen, Monty, Swann, Finn etc. while playing/taking a wicket/scoring a 50 and so on?
    Meh, plenty of "selfish" batsmen have scored runs in Test cricket.

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    Tendulkar is almost 40. I don't find it that hard to believe he is over the hill. Sehwag is a see ball hit ball player. Guys like that always tend to lose their abilities quicker than others. I certainly doubt that in Tendulkar's case he 'doesn't like playing tests'. The guy is probably sick of all the expectation, but no man with a career that long dislikes his job. His skills have just waned.

    And I'm sorry but I've never rated Dhoni in tests. He's a great limited overs player, maybe even ATG, but he's never looked like a test batsman and his keeping is average at best. Whether thats down to technical faults or lack of motivation is open to debate.

    Kohli, Pujara etc are all fairly talented and will come good eventually. They are just new to international cricket. Indian fans expect far more of their young batsmen than other countries, you just need to reign in your expectations a bit. You aren't going to just instantly replace guys like Sachin, Dravid and Laxman.

    India are going through a transitional phase. I'm fairly sure they will make it out a fairly good test side, if not particularly special. I think their problems are simpler than people think. They main issue in recent times has been the denial of such problems even existing, which makes solving them impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    I think a lot of the problems stem back to winning the World Cup on home soil, nothing left for many to achieve and they have played an awful lot of cricket since then. An old side which lacks desire spells problems.
    I dunno about this... VVS and Dravid didnt even play the WC. And a series win in Australia would have been as big as the world cup for the seniors, i have no doubt.
    Hard to believe they all began their decline together but thats what happened ... no lack of desire imo

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    Give Kohli the gloves IMO.

    Sehwag
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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Yuvraj should never have been recalled, Gambhir is lucky to be in the side still and Kohli is a good player who is one of many hopelessly out of form in this series. Apart from that Harsh has a point.
    All I am saying is that if you are not happy, that means you don't really like playing the game. Remember all the good sides. The players looked happy when they achieved something, or were on the field trying to get the opposition out quickly. There was a sense of purpose and energy. India has had that too of course, just not happening now. Rare to get a smile out of any face there. How are they going to win the goddamn thing?

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    Cause they're losing and India are going through one of their worst phases in over a decade?

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    I think the indian batsmen age twice as fast those of other nations due to the ****ness of Indian bowlers
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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    All I am saying is that if you are not happy, that means you don't really like playing the game. Remember all the good sides. The players looked happy when they achieved something, or were on the field trying to get the opposition out quickly. There was a sense of purpose and energy. India has had that too of course, just not happening now. Rare to get a smile out of any face there. How are they going to win the goddamn thing?
    Oh....you mean the point that Wasim Akram never fails to bring up i.e. body language

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    All I am saying is that if you are not happy, that means you don't really like playing the game. Remember all the good sides. The players looked happy when they achieved something, or were on the field trying to get the opposition out quickly. There was a sense of purpose and energy. India has had that too of course, just not happening now. Rare to get a smile out of any face there. How are they going to win the goddamn thing?
    Most teams look pretty miserable when they are getting trashed. Particularly at home in front of your home crowd.

    You do have a point re: India's body language in the field though. Its bad.
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