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[shankar]

Ishant actually bowling full for 6 consecutive balls...

[Spark]

3rd over of the innings, deep point is in.

MS Dhoni, everyone.

[Contra]

Originally Posted by Spark

3rd over of the innings, deep point is in.

MS Dhoni, everyone.

the ball isn't doing anything, and they're waiting for the ball to start reversing so they can attack, its best to control the run flow at this stage.

[NasserFan207]

Lol Ishant. Awful seam position, and poor grip for swing. No wonder he always seems to be so straight up and down.

[Stapel]

I was simply having a look at India's fast bowler's stats. I knew Zaheer is closing in on his 300th wicket, but I can't help but notice his average is a bit disappointing. Of all bowlers with that amount of wickets, only Harbhajan has a poorer average. And I actually rate the guy!

Sharma's stats are far worse. Makes me wonder where Paveen Kumar is. He was good in England!

[Spark]

Originally Posted by Contra

the ball isn't doing anything, and they're waiting for the ball to start reversing so they can attack, its best to control the run flow at this stage.

Yes, that unstoppable run rate of under 3?

Give your new ball bowlers some support ffs.

[Daemon]

Ishant isn't a swing bowler though. In fact one of the reasons he's lost a lot of pace as he admitted was because he was trying to copy Zaheer and Praveen.

EDIT: @ Nasserfan

[Howe_zat]

Originally Posted by Spark

3rd over of the innings, deep point is in.

MS Dhoni, everyone.

[Contra]

Originally Posted by Spark

Yes, that unstoppable run rate of under 3?

Give your new ball bowlers some support ffs.

that is support, he's got plenty of players in the slips still, having a guy back for the odd bad ball is perfectly fine. And he's not the only captain who does it, of course everyone loves to pick on him so I'm not surprised by your comment.

[NasserFan207]

Originally Posted by Daemon

Ishant isn't a swing bowler though. In fact one of the reasons he's lost a lot of pace as he admitted was because he was trying to copy Zaheer and Praveen.

EDIT: @ Nasserfan

Oh I realise that, but his seam position is awful. He's never going to get any movement of the pitch unless he flukes it bowling like this.

[Spark]

It allows a defensive shot to concede an easy single, which is just dumb when the ball is this new.

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Stapel

I was simply having a look at India's fast bowler's stats. I knew Zaheer is closing in on his 300th wicket, but I can't help but notice his average is a bit disappointing. Of all bowlers with that amount of wickets, only Harbhajan has a poorer average. And I actually rate the guy!

Sharma's stats are far worse. Makes me wonder where Paveen Kumar is. He was good in England!

Zaheer averages much less (like 5 rus per wicket) away from India. Cricinfo.

If he was English or an EnZedder he'd be below 30, IMHO. Quality craftsman.

[NasserFan207]

I don't blame Dhoni for being defensive when one of your opening bowlers literally has zero chance of moving the ball of the straight.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by NasserFan207

I don't blame Dhoni for being defensive when one of your opening bowlers literally has zero chance of moving the ball of the straight.

Was doing it to Zaheer, simply because Cook had played one square cut to a pie.

[Contra]

Originally Posted by Spark

It allows a defensive shot to concede an easy single, which is just dumb when the ball is this new.

it's not dumb when the new ball isn't doing anything, and isn't likely to do anything. I'd rather save the 4 than give a single at this stage, as the ball gets older it becomes slightly difficult to score, and that's when you don't mind the odd 4 because the ball will start to reverse, which gives you a chance.