English off season 2012/13 - Page 7

morgieb · 03-11-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jan

Where does dislike of Smith on English blogosphere come from?

He cost three English captains their job

grecian · 03-11-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jan

Where does dislike of Smith on English blogosphere come from?

Umm, I'm never going to be in a blogosphere, but to be honest it's no mystery, he's relentlessly good against us, it's as simple as that, there's no stylistic points to grab onto like Ponting, he is horribly functional. Really the question should be is what is there to like from an english perspective?

jan · 04-11-2012, 01:39 AM

So you dont like him because he has great record against England? That makes him a good player and captain, an enemy worth respect, right?
Englishmen surely take sport seriously

BoyBrumby · 04-11-2012, 02:04 AM

No there's more to it than that.

When he first emerged he was a tubby blow-hard who told tales out of school (an early nickname was "The Witness", after he gave evidence against Matthew Hayden when the latter had said some nasty things to the poor, fragile little lamb) whose idea of leading from the front was to go and bat at #5 when he couldn't lay bat on the swinging ball.

He's matured now, but early on his idea of leading from the front was being a massive cock and badmouthing players who'd paid their dues and, in some instances, whose jockstrap he wasn't fit to carry.

Spikey · 04-11-2012, 02:15 AM

but it's mainly due to Graeme Smith 277 vs England 1st test 2003 - YouTube & Graeme Smith 259 vs England - YouTube

BoyBrumby · 04-11-2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikey

but it's mainly due to Graeme Smith 277 vs England 1st test 2003 - YouTube & Graeme Smith 259 vs England - YouTube

If I hated anyone who did well against England I'd have a pretty shallow pool of cricketers I didn't actively despise.

Ironically Kallis's record against us isn't that flash and I've never been a real admirer of his.

Pup Clarke · 04-11-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

No there's more to it than that.

When he first emerged he was a tubby blow-hard who told tales out of school (an early nickname was "The Witness", after he gave evidence against Matthew Hayden when the latter had said some nasty things to the poor, fragile little lamb) whose idea of leading from the front was to go and bat at #5 when he couldn't lay bat on the swinging ball.

He's matured now, but early on his idea of leading from the front was being a massive cock and badmouthing players who'd paid their dues and, in some instances, whose jockstrap he wasn't fit to carry.

And now?

grecian · 11-11-2012, 11:54 AM

Alviro Petersen, is that the definition of meh?

theegyptian · 11-11-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by grecian

Alviro Petersen, is that the definition of meh?

starting to get through some counties now. impressive given he's now a regular at international level and the role of journeymen overseas pro is normally reserved for those not playing international cricket

fredfertang · 14-11-2012, 12:36 AM

Apparently Lanky have signed Simon Katich for next season - will be delighted if that turns out to be true

Pothas · 14-11-2012, 10:16 AM

Yeah, developing a habit of stealing our players it would seem.

Hants did offer him a deal but he turned it down, is very apparent that we can no longer compete on wages, imagine him and Kabir were on a fair amount.

Not overly troubled with losing Katich though, especially if Mckenzie comes back. Really hoping we can get an overseas bowler instead.

Woodster · 14-11-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fredfertang

Apparently Lanky have signed Simon Katich for next season - will be delighted if that turns out to be true

Yes excellent signing just what Lancs need, a reliable, experienced performer in that middle order.

Woodster · 19-11-2012, 06:10 AM

Rob Key has stood down as Kent captain after seven years in the role. An extremely likeable chap,imo, and tactically a very switched on skipper. There's nothing in the reports to suggest he's retiring from cricket, which is a good thing, because I'm sure he still has plenty to offer Kent as a batsman and also I expect he will be a big help to new skipper James Tredwell.

BoyBrumby · 19-11-2012, 10:50 AM

Interesting shout for Fat Bob's replacement. To be polite, Tredwell has never struck one as an especially deep thinker...

Viscount Tom · 19-11-2012, 12:10 PM

With a nickname of Pingu I can't think why.

04-11-2012, 02:04 AM	#94 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	No there's more to it than that. When he first emerged he was a tubby blow-hard who told tales out of school (an early nickname was "The Witness", after he gave evidence against Matthew Hayden when the latter had said some nasty things to the poor, fragile little lamb) whose idea of leading from the front was to go and bat at #5 when he couldn't lay bat on the swinging ball. He's matured now, but early on his idea of leading from the front was being a massive cock and badmouthing players who'd paid their dues and, in some instances, whose jockstrap he wasn't fit to carry. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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Spikey Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: All Glory To The Nev Posts: 24,051	but it's mainly due to Graeme Smith 277 vs England 1st test 2003 - YouTube & Graeme Smith 259 vs England - YouTube __________________ Indians can't bowl - Where has the rumour come from as I myself and many indian friends arwe competent fast bowlers ? With the English bid I said: Let us be brief. If you give back the Falkland Islands, which belong to us, you will get my vote. They then became sad and left

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